Middle East conflict

[facthunter]

Heavier Planes are More of a Problem where the earth is not able to support them. Pavement Depth Factor.  Nev

[kgwilson]

3 hours ago, onetrack said:

With the U.S. military, it is. Remember, these are the people who expended 40,000 rounds of ammo for every enemy killed in Vietnam.

And they still lost.

[randomx]

5 hours ago, onetrack said:

With the U.S. military, it is. Remember, these are the people who expended 40,000 rounds of ammo for every enemy killed in Vietnam.

 

My God, that's insane , but so American.

Must be like in their movies to where they can't hit the broadside of a house.

 

 

 

 

[randomx]

Did you guys see what Chump wrote on his social last night ?

Open the fkg straight you crazy bastards .

l say again and this is the man running the US atm, or should l say ruining, along with the rest of the world.

Mind blowing . 

Edited 21 hours ago by randomx

[Jerry_Atrick]

Ahh.. but he is the master of the art of the deal...

 

 

In his own mind

[willedoo]

5 hours ago, onetrack said:

With the U.S. military, it is. Remember, these are the people who expended 40,000 rounds of ammo for every enemy killed in Vietnam.

I reckon the GE miniguns would account for a fair percentage of the total. They used them like whipper snippers.

[onetrack]

Willie - But it wasn't uncommon for U.S. troops just to hold up their weapons, and empty magazine after magazine, on auto, just firing into a patch of scrub, where enemy were "suspected" of hiding.

[willedoo]

I'm sure the M-16 three shot burst setting was designed with US troops in mind, but I reckon a lot would have used auto a lot. Giving them an auto setting is a bit like giving a kid the keys to the lolly shop. When you see a lot of Vietnam footage of them firing, they seem to hugely misinterpret the concept of covering fire. Apparently they were a bit that way in WW2 as well, although they mostly had semi-autos there. My dad always used to say when he was up in the islands that they felt safer fighting the Japanese than they did being anywhere near the Americans.

[willedoo]

Getting off topic a bit here, but this photo of my dad and his platoon making their way up through Balikpapan was taken on the first day of the landings. The same day, another platoon in their company got strafed by a trigger happy American plane. Lucky nobody was killed but some were wounded. They were right out in the open as well, in clearly visible land just off the beach. 

[facthunter]

. To be a POW of the Japanese was No Fun. My Flying instructor was in Changi.   Nev

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

. Nev

[onetrack]

I can recall a few Changi POW's telling me how they always used to take the piss out of the Japs at every opportunity - and the Japs often didn't understand the piss was being taken out of them.

[willedoo]

When the war finished they had a lot of Japanese held in pow type camps awaiting repatriation back to Japan. In a lot of them they didn't have allied soldiers guarding them, they were doing it themselves. One night my dad and his mate were returning back to camp from a local watering hole and walked past one of the camps. All hell broke loose, the sentry called the alarm and the camp commandant roused the whole camp of Japanese out of bed to form up on the parade ground. He got my dad and his mate who were full as a boot to inspect the troops. The old man said it was one of the craziest experiences he had over there, two private ranked Australians with the wobbly boot on walking up and down the Japanese ranks inspecting them. He told me they hammed it up a bit and did a fairly dodgy officer impersonation to give the commandant a bit of face.

[red750]

Reports on ABC 10.20 pm news that America has attacked the military base on Kharg Island, but not the oil depot.

 

[onetrack]

Multiple U.S. military attacks are being reported on many Iranian infrastructure assets - bridges, railways, power stations, petrochemical plants and even Tehran University.

A synagogue in Tehran was destroyed when an adjoining building was hit with a U.S. bomb.

A reported 50 military sites were bombed on Kharg Island - military bunkers and storage facilities, air defense systems and other military facilities. The IRGC has simply replied with more missile launches and drone strikes, targeting Israel, the UAE, Kuwait and Bahrain.

 

Meantimes, Iran has set the conditions for a ceasefire with a 10 point plan - which includes requirements for the U.S. to cease bombing Iran immediately, and pay reparations for Iranian damage, and to give security guarantees to Iran. The Iranians state that a peace deal must allow Iran to charge "toll" fees for ships passing through the Straits of Hormuz. The U.S. President has rejected the plan without revealing all the details.

[randomx]

Be about now wouldn't it that the Yanks should be carrying out Chumps threat .

Gonna be interesting see how far all that goes today.

[onetrack]

Despite initially rejecting the 10 point peace plan - under pressure from Pakistani negotiators, Trump has declared a 2 week cessation of bombing of Iran, which is one of the primary requests from the negotiators.

 

In addition, the Iranian Govt called on Iranian civilians to form large human shields around important infrastructure. As a result human shields appeared around a major Iranian power plant, and several important Iranian bridges - all of which infuriated Trump, and which move has perhaps made him change his mind about "bombing Iran back into the Stone Age".

 

The Iranians still see the bombing of Iran as "Zionist agression", and America as the puppet of Netanyahu.

 

 

 

[nomadpete]

18 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Ahh.. but he is the master of the art of the deal...

 

 

In his own mind

But only when he holds all the cards

[nomadpete]

16 hours ago, willedoo said:

My dad always used to say when he was up in the islands that they felt safer fighting the Japanese than they did being anywhere near the Americans.

Same cynical comment from my late dad. He was on the big guns around there. He said the American warships arrived, pounded the island with heavy fire from a safe distance until there wasn't a palm tree standing, then ping off and send the Aussies in to "mop up". Then the Japanese would come out and the real combat started.

[red750]

He's backed down again, saying he'll hold off for 2 weeks while he negotiates through Pakistan, It's supposed to be a double sided ceasefire.

[rgmwa]

I wonder if that means that Trump immediately reimposes sanctions on Russian oil now. I think I know the answer.

[facthunter]

As it stands NOW the scene is a complete MESS. So Much damage that OIL supply will be a very Large ongoing issue EVEN if it stopped right Now.   Nev

[red750]

He threatened to wipe out a civilisation. This is the guy who demanded the Nobel Peace Prize!

[rgmwa]

Threatening genocide is not the best way to win a Nobel peace prize.