Middle East conflict

[Litespeed]

56 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Yeah we know what muslims are like, chopping heads off and slitting throats. 

once again GON, you always display your racism

[facthunter]

You are an irresponsible IDIOT GON. This is NOT your forum to destroy. Use your brain,  for Once.   IF Iran is threatened with" Bombing Back to the Stone AGE where they belong" Unquote then what would any sane Person expect them to do? Just sit there and cop a Turkey shoot without any response? Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

21 minutes ago, Litespeed said:

once again GON, you always display your racism

Muslims come in all skin colours and nationalities.

[randomx]

2 hours ago, old man emu said:

We learned in Vietnam and Iraq, and in most wars since WWII is that the average Yank infrantryman is poorly trained and lead by poorly trained leaders in the field. If the Yanks try to put feet on the ground, it will be an unholy slaughter of the innocents. Basically, you can't invade a country whose countrymen are fighting to defend it. And you can't win if your troops have no experience fighting in terrain they have no experience of. I have not learned what the terrain is in Iran becasue I have never been exposed to it. Have you any idea what it is like?

 

 

Yeah they showed videos of the terrain lt's mountains alright lots and lots of it but not just any old mountains. They're very rough the kind that sort of have lots of sharp ripples running all the way down, how you'd even get around on them , no idea. The Iranians would have their ways though for sure.

And this is what they were talking about to and of how they could have anything on them and inside them but also be perched all through them too picking off the yanks from above type thing.

Very very heavy duty landscape.

Edited yesterday at 10:31 AM by randomx

[randomx]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

 IF Iran is threatened with" Bombing Back to the Stone AGE where they belong" Unquote

Yeah that was bloody disgusting talk coming from the president of the US for God sake. Imagine how that made the general population over there feel , as if they won't be going through enough.

[red750]

2 hours ago, old man emu said:

I have not learned what the terrain is in Iran becasue I have never been exposed to it. Have you any idea what it is like?

This might give you some idea.

 

The area around the Strait of Hormuz.

Territory to the left of the  image above

Mountains around Tehran

 

[randomx]

 

Thanks Peter and yeah, l mean look at the bottom two. You bet that's where the Iranians would be leading them to. Sitting ducks.

[Marty_d]

5 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Yeah we know what muslims are like, chopping heads off and slitting throats. 

Yeah we know what Americans are like, bombing schools and killing 160 kids.

[kgwilson]

Trump thinks America won all the wars including WW2. They haven't won any since WW2 though they did help win WW2. But Hollywood depicts them as the heroes so it must be true. Facts don't matter to Trump. He has lied his way through life & isn't going to stop now. Hegseth hasn't got a clue & thinks his God will make sure he is right & if that doesn't work Whiskey blurs what is right & what is real so he can still feel good & what would 12 experienced & capable generals know anyway. All they did was tell him the truth so they were fired.

[facthunter]

Trumps America can only turn Out BAD. The Greed driven Lunatics are running the asylum.  Nev

[red750]

https://michaelwest.com.au/this-is-not-journalism-the-bowen-beat-up-and-the-iran-war/

[randomx]

What an absolute classic.

Irans response to Trumps bs and threats in the last days is that he is- unstable, delusional, lacks personal discipline and that he constantly shifts and contradicts himself.

🤣

Well, ain't that the truth but at least someone's had the guts to say it to him and in front of the whole world.

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by randomx

[facthunter]

Won't do them any good with Trumps troupe. He will keep tossing his Bombs out of the Pram and saying "watch this one go off".  With No idea where it will all finish up . Nev

[onetrack]

Did you see the gigantic CF that the rescue of the downed U.S. airman turned into? The Yanks went into Iran with a major armed force, they all landed at a disused airstrip near the mountainous terrain the pilot was lost in. Then they had to scramble through 7000' mountains to get to him, and bring him back to the airstrip to fly him home.

 

But then, when they all went to take off, 2 x C-130's developed "technical problems" that stopped them from taking off. So rather than fly in technicians and parts to fix the aircraft, they flew in with another lot of aircraft - and blew up the 2 x C-130's, to stop the Iranians getting the use of them!

 

They wouldn't hang around to fix the machines, obviously fearful of a major enemy firefight, and the possibility of many more lives lost! So now, we (and the Iranians) know what ONE U.S. Colonel is worth - around US$250M, the replacement cost of 2 x C-130's!

 

Edited 9 hours ago by onetrack

[red750]

Until Hegseth fires him.

[rgmwa]

Did they really get a C130 so bogged they couldn’t take off again and then had to fly in other aircraft to get everyone out? Sounds a bit chaotic. Surely the pilots would have seen and avoided soft sand and picked a better place to pull up. I assume they didn’t shut down the engines while they were there. I don’t think we’re necessarily getting the full story. Maybe the Iranians damaged them? No mention of any casualties either except for the rescued weapons officer. 

Edited 8 hours ago by rgmwa

[Marty_d]

That's my thoughts too @rgmwa.

Everything this administration says is a lie, why would they start telling the truth now.

[nomadpete]

8 hours ago, onetrack said:

Did you see the gigantic CF that the rescue of the downed U.S. airman turned into?

Is it normal to deploy, to rescue one person in a war (oh...excursion), “Navy SEALs, Air Force Special Operations, Army Special Operations Aviation, search and rescue” with “more than 150 aircraft to join the effort to rescue the weapons system officer…including 64 fighter jets, four bombers, 48 refuelers, 13 rescue planes and 26 intelligence and jamming aircraft.”

Mr. Trump said he made the decision to rescue the airmen because "in the United States military, we leave no American alive."

 

(He didn't think that comment through did he?)

(He failed to add - “when you might be a massive, fatal political liability to me.”)

Trump: HERO!!!

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/live-up...ants-bridges-ceasefire-push-air-force-rescue/