Middle East conflict

[randomx]

On another note , reports on just how gob smacking it is that Rump just totally dismissed Vlad helping Iran , brushed it off as a no big deal.

He's assisting them in attacking the US but still, ahhh, no big deal.

Unbelievable !

Meanwhile, Rump went broke on some 45mil project 7 yrs back, couldn't sell it, the Russians turned up and offered him double the ask price so 90mil. 

They gave other examples to of the Russians bailing him out with big money even before his was Pres the first time soooo, not only is he in love with Vlad anyway buttt they own him basically too.

 

ps, they cert backed aa winner on that one didn't they eh, now he's the President, again, and they're getting away with murder- literally.

 

 

 

 

 

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[willedoo]

On 14/03/2026 at 12:34 PM, onetrack said:

Peter, that's got to be some image manipulation, no-one could stack aircraft like that - and then, you'd have to ask why, if the image isn't falsified?

 

Basic protection from attack is to spread out. One bomb in the centre of that tightly packed lot, and it's all gone.

I'd say they are all scrapped aircraft just stacked there as a source of parts. With sanctions they need every spare nut and bolt they can get.

[randomx]

Yeah, was looking at that too. If it's a google satellite shot though, well ldk.

That batch in the middle though how would they even get them placed like that ?

But at the same time, if they're just spares wouldn't they just be out in a paddock? That's smack in the middle of the complex.

 

 

Edited March 15 by randomx

[willedoo]

I had a look on Google Maps and zoomed in on high res, and that's exactly what it is - a big pile of scrap. Some have been craned on top of others. The big one is an An-124. It's most likely a section of the airport where all the workshops are. It would be a variety of scrapped planes not worth fixing or in the case of US and Ukrainian (Antonov) planes, they can't get vital parts.

 

I remember back when Iran and Russia were looking at a deal for Iran to license build the Sukhoi Superjet and the US knocked the plan on the head as they had the veto call due to the percentage of US made parts in the Sukhoi. I forget the percentage, I think it's around 10 or 15 percent content and they can block things. At the time I was surprised at how many airliners Iran has and needs for domestic use.

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[willedoo]

On the otherside of the coin Boeing and Airbus use, or did use, Russian made parts. They were doing so only a handful of years ago, don't know if they still are. I know they made undercarriages and brake systems. Russia had high hopes for the big joint venture with Boeing they were building, but I think going to war with Ukraine stuffed that.

[willedoo]

From Google AI: 'Over 20 decommissioned, "cannibalized" aircraft have been parked at Tehran's
Imam Khomeini International Airport for over a decade due to international sanctions, which hinder maintenance and parts procurement. Mehrabad International Airport also serves as a major graveyard, with satellite images showing damaged or abandoned planes from Boeing, Airbus, and other manufactures.'

 

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202309292594

Edited March 15 by willedoo

[willedoo]

Looking at the clearer photo in that Iranian link posted above, it doesn't look like any are stacked with a crane. It looks more like they all fit in with the varying height of the wings and tailplanes. Maybe the big one is a 747 and not an An-124.

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[randomx]

Yeah right , you might think in being careful not to damage them then butttt, then again , the parts could be anything to so they don't want anything damaged.

Don't know , know nothing about the aircraft business but it does make sense them being close to the workshops bc they sure don't look like they'll be flown anywhere.

[willedoo]

The one I thought at first was a An-124 is definitely not so. It's an old Boeing 747-100 by the look of it. This article says the world's last operational 747-100 was destroyed in the strikes on the airport.

 https://www.sofx.com/israeli-strikes-destroy-worlds-last-operational-boeing-747-100-in-tehran/

[old man emu]

5 hours ago, onetrack said:

The Nazis used refined terrorism via the Gestapo.

The actions of the Party through its Gestapo have been compared to the recent actions of ICE agents in the Land of the Free.

 

The USA has been doing things that towrads the end of the 20th Century came to be defined as terrorism since the late 19th Century. Remember the Spanish-American War when the USA attacked the Spanish territory of Cuba and at the end gained control of the Phillipines. Not to forget, either, the interference of the USA in just about every South American country as each gained independence from its colonial rulers.

[randomx]

Yep , agree emu, never been a surprise to me half the world hates the Yanks , poss' more than half.

Even in this now , they've done twice now in just a few mths what the whole world is pissed about Russia doing in Ukr, not to mention all the other trouble Russias done.

And l know on the other hand there's the terrorism and nuke side of it but never the less, Russias come out with all that stuff to. He wants UKr disarmed to, hell he'd have all the Boltics disarmed if he could , and the rest. But eh, next breath rumps racing off about the oil or minerals or controlling ths controlling that anyway.

Not that l'm knowing how the US or anyone should handle say Iran or other things no idea what the answers are but l do know the Yanks haven't been much better and it's no surprise as l say they're so hated.

Couldn't even tell me Russia/Putin even likes Rump or the west, nor would China truly, l think they both despise them actually and Rump but just have to work with them.

Middle east , Arabs, all of them also def despises him and the US deep down is my guess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

That's right, death to America.

[facthunter]

Sure. Trump is a gift from heaven and a true Man of God, who fixes everything. Ha Ha. Get real.  The GOP are gutless.  Nev

[red750]

5 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

That's right, death to America.

What's it going to take for you to take off the blinkers and see the light?

[facthunter]

Maybe be born again? He'd lose his raison d'  etre. Nev

[old man emu]

If there is a country in the World that needs a regime change, it's the USA. Unfortunately, replacng the Republicans with the Democrats will not change the American culture which is the source of the problem.

[red750]

Trump doesn't know the difference between "incursion" and "excursion".

 

He has referred to his war on Iran as a "military excursion". 

 

Cambridge Dictionary defines "excursion" as

 

a short trip usually made for pleasure, often by a group of people:
My class is going on an excursion to Niagara Falls.

 

The definition of excursion is

 

a sudden and unwanted entrance to a place or area controlled by others, esp. in a military attack

 

Some officials in the White House said that they are afraid to correct the president on his gaffe, and others said a correction wouldn’t even matter.

[willedoo]

Diesel is $2.80 here this morning, about 40 cents dearer than unleaded.

[old man emu]

You have to feel sorry for the Yanks. Their fuel price is now about $US 4.00 per US gallon. There are 3.78541 litres per US gallon. That puts their price at $US 1.06 per litre. Currently $US 1.06 = $AUD 1.50.

[facthunter]

A US gallon is smaller than an Imperial one. But THEY get fuel cheap. That's why they drive giant "Heaps of Gleaming Chrome" Cars with Truck sized Motors in them and won't go around corners fast. Leather seats though. Lots of hamburgers help that. Nev

[randomx]

Wth hell would we feel sorry for the Yanks or ahhh, was that sarcasm ? Even in our money that's still only 150 a ltr, we're near paying double that now and soon a lot more yet from here.

Plus look at the damn fool of a president they voted in. 

Edited March 17 by randomx

[onetrack]

The part that gets up your nose is that over 80% of our petrol and diesel comes ready-refined from huge refineries in Singapore, South Korea, Japan and China.

 

These refineries source their crude from probably 20 or 30 different crude oil sources - then blend it to make it suitable for their particular refinery feedstock.

 

It's not like a slowdown in Straits of Hormuz oil shipping is going to affect our fuel supplies or prices to the levels we're currently seeing. Maybe 15% - 20% at most, not the 70% - 90% increases we are currently seeing.

 

We're being reamed senseless with a large pineapple with no lube, when it comes to fuel. Only 25% of the worlds oil moves through the Straits of Hormuz, so that means 75% of oil supplies are unaffected.

 

Edited March 17 by onetrack

[facthunter]

Any reduction Puts the Price up eventually. OPEC used that in the Past to enrich themselves and created Chaos which they decided was not in their interests long term.   Nev

[facthunter]

 There's only 2   Refineries operating in  Australia. Storage costs Heaps and may not be the answer.  Bass Strait oil dried up years ago There was a bad accident at the Refinery. Nev

[randomx]

Well, apparently , true to Aussie Gov form, they made it impossible for the Qld refinery to keep operating in Aus they now process offshore and all over the world not here, so now we only have one.

Shear brilliance in action as usual from Aus.

Edited March 17 by randomx