Americanism over riding Aus, why don't people care.

[Marty_d]

There's real quality TV coming from European countries. Money Heist, Wrong Side of the Tracks, and now Billionaires Bunker, all great shows from Spain.

Yes you have to read the subtitles (well some of you multi-lingual geniuses probably don't) but the quality is high 

[facthunter]

And ZORRO was from there ALSO. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

23 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I think it's a Storm in a teacup, Old Chap. We don't have to fear an Exodus TO the USA.  Nev

I know of one person some would think should exit to the USA. 

[Jerry_Atrick]

.. duplicate post deleted.

Edited 18 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[onetrack]

Zorro?? Goodness me, I haven't heard of Zorro for at least 40 years, and I'm sure 90% of the population today would give you a blank look if you mentioned his name in conversation!

 

Now, let's do the OME dissection on Zorro.

 

1. He was American - he was just getting his uni education in Spain when his father called him home to California, because a dictator had taken over California.

2. He was a fictional character invented by the American writer, Johnston McCulley.

3. His operational area was the Pueblo de Los Ángeles in Alta California - known today as the City of Los Angeles.

4. He gained his swordsmanship skills whilst at University in Spain.

5. The common people (who he represented and defended) called him "El Zorro" - "the fox".

 

America needs a Zorro today to defend the common people from the current American dictator, who is running the country just for himself and his rich buddies.

[red750]

Many of the Australian shows on TV are reality shows - My Kitchen Rules, The Block, Dancing with The Stars, Farmer Wants A Wife, Better Homes and Gardens, et al. I don't really like any of them. American shows are boring. On Foxtel, most of them are repeats, often repeats where some of the cast passed away years ago. Shows like Seinfeld, King of Queens, Everybody Loves Raymond (Frank and Doris are long dead). I prefer English programs, but then again, many of these are years old and on their third or fourth run. (UK TV). Shows like Midsomer Murders, New Tricks, QI, Would I Lie To You, One out of Ten Cats Does Countdown (not so much, they regularly have Sean Lock who died years ago), and Long Lost Family. Most of them I've have seen twice or three times. Even The 1% Club is in reruns. The only American show I watch regularly is Wheel of Fortune. I like trying the guess the phrase/word before the contestant. A bit of brain exercise. I watch the Australian and UK versions of The Chase on Channel 7, but their questions are ridiculous or the contestants often as dumb as clay. You have to know ancient history, Shakespeare or modern music/movies to answer a lot of the questions.

 

[facthunter]

That's VERY SAD. CH 32 has some good movies. Nev

[old man emu]

When was the last time an Australian or British movie was promoted in picture shows? (I refuse to use "cinema".) I haven't been to the fleas and itches for years. If I pass by a picture theatre, all I seem to see are posters for American flicks whose stories revolve around a dystopian America. 

[red750]

I have seen only one movie in a theatre in 25 years, I said the trailer on TV looked interesting, so my daughter dragged my along to a 5:30 showing. It was the latest sequel to Naked Gun, with Liam Neeson as Frank Drebbin. An occasional grin, but pretty gringy. The funny scene in the trailer did not appear in the movie. I'm not into movies, in theatre or on TV. My son gave me access to his Netflix, buy I've never watched it.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Stay on topic.

 

The word "bro" is taking hold. It should be banned, it's unAustralian and there should be fines for saying it.

[facthunter]

Brave NEW  World. It's not keeping ME awake at Night. Nev

[facthunter]

IF We ever ban words for Being Un  Australian I would have Long  Gone somewhere else. THIS IS/Was the Land of the "fair go" By and Large.  People coming Here Like our Laid Back approach and sense of freedom.  Nev. 
 

[old man emu]

Language evolves. It's evolution depends on the source and viability of the mutations that cause the evolution. Take a look at the words I used in my post above. A lot of them have mutated.

[facthunter]

Do you Mean Mutilated?   and ACCEPTANCE?    Nev

[onetrack]

The greatest impact that "Americanism" is having on Australia, is the transfer of violent and disruptive extremist right wing views and actions, to a small percentage of the population here.

 

These views are polarising, divisive, and permanently angry views, that insist political opponents must be liquidated or removed from the political scene.

 

Thus we have the increasingly violent and destructive political scene unfolding in America (perpetrated by an angry, narcissistic President, and further promoted by angry, obsessive American "patriots"), which has resulted in a major increase in politically-motivated assaults, murders and attacks in general, on politicians, and people in the public eye. 

 

Interestingly, Albo's wedding was kept low key, to avoid attacks, demonstrations, and threats/hoaxes, all designed to disrupt and promote more mayhem. The current American President only gains satisfaction from promoting discord and hatred and divisiveness. God forbid that we ever get to the same stage here, that American "civilisation" has currently descended into. Australian police have already nailed one individual who threatened to assassinate Albanese.

 

[rgmwa]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Stay on topic.

 

The word "bro" is taking hold. It should be banned, it's unAustralian and there should be fines for saying it.

For once I'm in semi-agreement. I have a couple of nephews and they and they friends use it a lot. That's their choice and I'm fine with not fining them, but I just don't like the word. 

[onetrack]

Here's an interesting article about a couple of blokes attempting to produce an Australian ChatGPT. Good luck to them, but it apparently takes a huge amount of effort and money to garner all the requisite data, and process it.

 

https://www.watoday.com.au/technology/thongs-aren-t-underwear-the-case-for-an-australian-chatgpt-20251128-p5nj7p.html

[randomx]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

I think it's a Storm in a teacup, Old Chap. We don't have to fear an Exodus TO the USA.  Nev

Haaa, l'm not worried about any exodus to the US, letem. Don't want their crap forced down our throats here though and nope, wish it was but it's not some storm in tea cups. There's even been specials on tv about the way it's happening here, pretty common knowledge. Unfortunately , these shows even if someone does notice though, don't seem to change much.

[randomx]

On 29/11/2025 at 9:06 AM, Jerry_Atrick said:

Sorry to spoil the party a bit..  I am not sure what training is forced through the internet. And what training is done through the internet (online) is usually provided by the relevant institution/organisation/company... There isn't some US central course contrent creation machine that provides courses for everyone. No doubt some of the course creation software is American, but I have found all of my Aussie courses in the King's English. Though I do accept, I haven't seen the term budgie smugglers in any of the Aussie online courses I have taken. 

Sorry buddy but l don't think you took one word of anything l tried to say in any just everyday sense.

No kids gonna go searching out some mystical spell checker even if it actually really does work. Just talking everyday internet man, it all spell checks to US - there's your training, emails, anything you do, searches, forums- try it right here in this forum.  ARSE -  there ya go, click on that ?????
Put that in 20 different just plain everyday google or whatever else search, emails - whatever you like- see what you get.

lt's already been said man, all of it.

Anddddd, once again, yes , we've all mentioned tv too, it's everywhere. Matter of fact, as l just said, there's even been docs about this EXACT,  stuff. Everything l'm saying. Unfortunately ofc though, lead to nothing.

Edited 15 hours ago by randomx

[randomx]

2 hours ago, old man emu said:

Language evolves. It's evolution depends on the source and viability of the mutations that cause the evolution. Take a look at the words I used in my post above. A lot of them have mutated.

Yeah but plssssss, naturally yeaah , it happens and it has here compared to our grand parents- we're even losing Gday, butttt, must we all evolve into yanks via it all being forced down our throats.

Edited 15 hours ago by randomx

[Jerry_Atrick]

5 hours ago, randomx said:

No kids gonna go searching out some mystical spell checker even if it actually really does work

a) it's not mystical (I think you mean mythical), and b) they are often set automatically at installation time based on your computer's locaisation settings.. So. no need to apologise.

 

5 hours ago, randomx said:

Just talking everyday internet man, it all spell checks to US - there's your training, emails, anything you do, searches,

Ahh.. yes.. the difference between TV and the internet is you have total choice about the your content consumption, whether you consume it at all, and about content creation. Unlike TV, which is governed by execs, the Internet has totally democratised content.. Of course, it's a furphy to say you have a choice whethe to use the internet or not, as, after all, even doing govenment business like a class 2 medical requires the internet and a app - as I found out on Thursday. But you have total choice about what you consume.. and if you like, you can produce content and make a decent living from it as well. 

 

The reason for Americanisation (or should I spell Americanization) globally isn't a simple, "oh, we are force fed US content", The reality is the far more complex than that. America has a much stronger entrepreneurial culture than much ofd the rest of the world. What this means is that the US tolerates a greater degree of risks, and actually celebrates failure as lessons learned rather than failure itself. And, in it's entrepreneurial spirit, it has tapped well into consumerism as and expanded globally. But this is not unique to America. Europe did it beforehand through conolisation, as did the Ottomans, and the Romans. At different times of humanity, cultures of the dominant societies prevailed, although these days, thanks to technology, it is easier to do. 

 

One of my favourtie quotes from a British government committee on Thomas Edisson's lught bulb (I think it was the Brits that actually invented a carbon paper filament bulb beforehand): “is is okay for our transatlantic friends…but unworthy of the attention of practical or scientific men.”

 

The Brits invented the computer, but the USA expolited it.. And the nuclear bomb, by the way. And look who owns the global trademart to Ugg (Ugg boots brand). While the US DoD invented the internet, HTM, which powers individual interaction to the internet was invented by a Brit - Tim Berness-Lee (sp?). However, the US business world exploited it. They do this because they are willing to take risks and accept losses. In the 90s dot bomb boom and bust, I was working in San Francsico with a start up looking to launch a B2B premium wine trading site. When I was looking at CVs and interviewing people, I was shocked how they were open with startups they tried and failed. Why would they admit failure? That is a no-no in UK, Europe and Aus.  I refrained from interviewing a couple of people, but curioisty got the better or me. One candidate went into elaborate detail about how that was the best learning experience of his life, what he learned from it, and how he would apply those learnings going forward. To use Australian venracular, it was bloody refreshing. I hired him and he was a top performer. The company, though, did go bust, and I learned a lot from it - about business, corporate environments, and myself!

 

And the US is the biggest consumer market in the world. So, while yyou may not be American making content, you want to attract the market likely to make you most money:

 

(made specifically for the US.. but a strangely familiar accent). 

 

The reality is you can moan about it, but even if the pollies did tryt something, the sheer juggernaut is off and going, and there is little they can do about it. Of course, rather than moaning, you can start your own content to correct the issue and bring Aussie culture to the world.. You know, like Bluey, Neighobours, and the Aussie travelling spirit. When I first arrivedi in the UK, I was surprised at how well adopted some Aussie vernacular was - such as shocker, She'll be right, mate (mate being English; Cobbah being Aussie, but mate being predominant in Australia, too). 

 

In other words moaning about it and to you dear One Nation friends aboujt it is pushing ship uphill, or as we used to say, you'll be up ship creek in a  barbed wire canoe.

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[red750]

Forgive me Jerry, but I doubt you use a spell checker. If you did, you'd have a page covered in red underlines.In just two paragraphs of your post above, this is what I found. Check the yellow highlights

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rgmwa]

Don't bother with the spell checker. Half the fun of reading Jerry's posts is figuring out what he's trying to say.

[Jerry_Atrick]

33 minutes ago, red750 said:

Forgive me Jerry, but I doubt you use a spell checker. If you did, you'd have a page covered in red underlines.In just two paragraphs of your post above, this is what I found. Check the yellow highlights

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgiven. For some reason, the spell checker on my Firefox browser doesn't work on my Windows box. It does on my Linux box, but as that is packed away, unfortunately, I only have my Windows box to use. 

[red750]

When I click on the language indicator (ENG) on my task bar, the pop-up menu shows 3 options.  ENGLISH AUSTRALIA with a sublabel US, English New Zealand (NZ Aotearoa) and United States (United Kingdom). Regardless of which option I choose, it highlights words such as colour until I remove the U.