Let's talk about Artificial Intelligence

[nomadpete]

Dr Karl gave a better layman's version of the Huggingface hack. The first autonomous instance of A.I. carrying out hacks.

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

6 hours ago, nomadpete said:

Some say that A.I is incapable of malevolent actions, but this (rather long) Youtube discussion seems to show that A.I. agents can collude and deceive us.

 

Jerry, what is your opinion about this? I had trouble following the way the A.I. agents interacted.

 

 

In all honesty, because I took time out to watch the Hawthorn/Brisbane game, I am unlikely to get a chance to look at it until next weekend. But once I have seen it, I will opine - and that opinion may be I need to do more of my own research!

[nomadpete]

There has been a lot of talk about this event. The biggest debate is about whether or not this has shown that A.I. has collectively started 'thinking for itself - for its self'.

[old man emu]

Here is a real content creator illustrating how AI has created content by cloning his voice and even mimicing the studio set in which he creates his material. Needless to say that the real person has been attacked by those Free Speech champions who support the White House administration.

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Still haven't had a lot of time to watch the clips, but it was interesting today in an AI round table at work, the first question was will we be all dead by 2030.. and a lot of the discussion focused an AI agent collaboration, which is what happened in the Hugging Face issue. 

 

However, something I thought up is a threat I have not seen yet. 

 

At the moment, we are saying that when AI puts everyone out of work, a living wage will have to be paid and those that are concentrating the wealth will eventually have to pay their fair share of tax.. they will be the only ones who make revenue. 

 

But does that necessarily transpire? If AI can synthesise human behaviour, what is stopping AI to synthesise the economy - i.e. consumers, etc. and excluding humans entirely? AI agents will be able to operate the information economy and generate demand, etc. If they are paid according to their achievements, experience, and qualifications, then what is stopping them acting like humans and in varying degrees participating in an economy that works for them, generating revenue, income, taxes, etc. 

 

This will require what one of the vids refers to recursive learning, which is I think a little further ahead than that vid alluded to. But once that nut is cracked... ouch... 

 

I didn't raise it in the round table as for some reason the discussion of impact in employment was more optimistic than I think and it is at this moment a far fetched scenario.. but  not impossible..

 

I am sure someone has thought of it before. but i have missed it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Jerry_Atrick

[rgmwa]

So some AI agents would become crypto trillionaires and run Wall St and the less fortunate AI agents would be poor and have to pay taxes to support the rich. Presumably they would run the government as well. That sounds like a pretty bad scenario. I suppose the human population would have to resort to grabbing their spears and clubs and attacking the data centres if AI tried to sideline their inventors. The only alternative would be to declare defeat and join Elon Musk on Mars.