old man emu Posted yesterday at 09:37 AM Author Posted yesterday at 09:37 AM Ukraine betrayed for 300,000 tonnes of diesel. One piece of silver equates to 10,000 tonnes of fuel. 2 1
rgmwa Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM The Russians are obviously well aware of how they've played Trump for the fool that he is. The other point is that the 300,000 tonnes very likely hasn't cost them anything. It's highly unlikely to be additional production, but more likely just the fuel they were intending to produce anyway and would have shipped to the market using their shadow fleet. Now it will just go out in a different tanker with a receipt from the US government to make it look legitimate. Not only that, it's not even going to the US. It's going to the world market, which means the small quantity involved will make even less difference to fuel prices anywhere. Trump will pay them $4 billion and effectively get nothing in return except maybe a thank you note from Putin for his birthday present. The Russians must be very happy with this deal. 2
nomadpete Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 14 hours ago, facthunter said: He won't be able to do that. Nev So far he has done and said a lot of things that everyone thought a president 'just cannot do'. 3
nomadpete Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) HE has expanded the promise to a million tons of diesel. meanwhile there was a report somewhere that the first tanker docked in USA yesterday. (haven't verified that). I thought tankers took a couple of weeks to do that trip? Anyway it isn't about the diesel - even that much is not going to drop the retail price in tim for the midterms. It is a grift to Pootin to help fix the Ukraine war. Along with nobbling starlink. Edited 16 hours ago by nomadpete 2
Jerry_Atrick Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago From what I could find out, the social media reports aren't correct. However, there seems to have an a ship from Russia that was carrying ammonia nitrate that docked last week. There is no confirmed shipments of diesel from Russia heading to the USA by reliable sources, anyway. An absolute kick in the teeth to Ukraine, but also to the US own military. The USA electorate is hardly switched on by foreign affairs, but there is bipartisan criticism of the deal, and this rings with rational voters. MAGA are a cult and will support anything their dear leader does, but MAGA is not as nig as a lot of people think. 1
nomadpete Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Looking at the USA condition..... the hole they are in..... basically the public have lost ALL faith in the system of government (both sides of it).... There is one way to restore the public's faith in the system.... If Dems wish to gain control for at least one season... Promise to release all the Epstein files unredacted, and to prosecute all dodgy particiants without favor, regardless of who they are, what party they are, or what country they are in. Restore ethics to the system. Problem solved.
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