Bruce Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hey this topic was about over-regulation. Not that I have any objection to the drift to good vs bad instructors. And coljones has a valid point, too little regulation can be bad too if applied to workers as he suggests. Right now, the pendulum is way too far the other way. look at RAAus and the GFA and how they have been forced to behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Yes, I think that there have been too many bashing RAA without making any allowance for the fact that CASA has been giving a lot of grief to RAA and GFA. I've given up gliding because it now costs more to take a glider up for an hour than a Jabiru! There are constant battles going on between them and us. Unfortunately the increasing tightness of rules is driven by CASA. They hold the trump card - thay can ground us upon a whim. And that is what is making our flying more bureaucratic. For instance, it was CASA who REQUIRED a SMS for RAA. It was not optional. And once they approve our SMS (developed by RAA at our expense), no doubt that they will take it over to the GA side and implement it there. Without them ever contributing to the cost which came out of RAA (our) pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 CASA is the key. Their function is policeman and not much beyond that. Trouble is there's no real world experience in there. It's not the first job an experienced pilot would want to do. There's too many lawyers active in there as well.. Their arx is more important than your flying fun. The regs they work under are not the way they should be. The "Show Must Go ON" is not much of a consideration. Education not just Regulation is needed.. The regs need to be in Plain unambiguous language. Reports have been done. Nothing changes Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hopefully this will help: CASA Restructure confirms GA Branch - Australian Flying We have the added layer of complexity the the EASA behemoth, which the CAA then gold plated to apply locally. A PPL MP,with some encouragement from the alphabet soup of organisations here (LAA, BMAA, GFA, AOPA, etc) started making noise in parliament and holding the DfT to account. The result, a GA branch of the CAA that came out with a red tape challenge and fortunately started stripping the gold plating from EASA regs almost immediately and we have a separate ANO for non EASA ops. We now have an APPG (All Party Parliamentary Group) for general aviation and great advanced in rational regulation are moving forward apace. Coupled with a rearguard action from France, which is a very GA friendly country (except those darned MIL corridors), EASA also are taking a far more propotional to risk based approach to regs. They still have a long way to go, though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Farmers in the Wimmera this grain-carting season were treated even worse ( than we are by CASA ) by transport dept types. One farmer was fined hundreds because a tie-down strap had a half-turn in it. Another because his seat had a small tear. All this terrorism was justified on "safety" grounds and defended by the minister, although not specifically those 2 cases. The tie-down strap guy later won in court, if he had lost there it would have cost him thousands. Regulated out of earning money? For sure. Where was the local MP ( Andrew Broad, a Brumby owner and inheritor of political fortune ) in all this I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Farmers in the Wimmera this grain-carting season were treated even worse ( than we are by CASA ) by transport dept types. One farmer was fined hundreds because a tie-down strap had a half-turn in it. Another because his seat had a small tear. All this terrorism was justified on "safety" grounds and defended by the minister, although not specifically those 2 cases.The tie-down strap guy later won in court, if he had lost there it would have cost him thousands. Regulated out of earning money? For sure. Where was the local MP ( Andrew Broad, a Brumby owner and inheritor of political fortune ) in all this I wonder. Broad is hunting down gays - they are everywhere, in the cupboards, hiding in the cornflakes packs, sitting in the front row of churches, even among pilots - Andrew, it is time to get back to your day job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 gosh coljones I hope that was a joke. Surely he is not that bad, owning a plane and all? I just thought he was lazy and will not deserve farmer's votes next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Owning a plane isn't a reliable indication of anything (much). Broadly speaking. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Oh no, I thought everybody who owned a plane was a great guy and my friend. Nev, you make me a sadder old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Flying Pollies are still Pollies. Don't be sad Bruce You know how to keep away from the crook ones. I hope. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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