If this is "faith", none for me please

[facthunter]

There is Plenty  of History going back more than BC. The Old Testament has some really scary stuff in it, so to believe everything there would  BLOW your Mind , somewhat. Religion considers the Universe to be about 6200 Years old and WAS created in 6 days. Science has a much more likely suggestion.. FAITH requires you Believe a lot of things, one being that not ONE hair of your Head will be Harmed without God Knowing about it. That Would make He/her/ IT a very BUSY entity. He is god of the Universe and HE MADE us in his own Image but we turned out Imperfect so that Christ, his only son who was conceived with Mary (the Virgin no less).had to DIE on the cross with 2 common criminals so that we could Live forever AND He is coming back to be with the faithful and they go to heaven where there ARE many Mansions. IF you don't believe all of that you are  Godless and a HEATHEN and going to a Place CALLED HELL.  where there WILL be Weeping and  Wailing and Gnashing of teeth. Ronnie Raygun believed "WE are in the Last days" and therefore Have no need to do a lot of things to Help the Planet/. GW Bush was  a reformed Born again drug addict, who falsified the reason for attacking IRAQ  (It wasn't ABOUT OIL. Not much it wasn't). Nev

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1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

I don't believe that the average churchgoer holds a bible for history lessons

A churchgoer, by definition, believes in a deity. Therefore would look for the lesson from the deity that particular story is meant to give. A non-churchgoer who, by definition, does not beleive in a deity, can look at the story as a record of some event. 

 

Let's look at two stories from the Bible - The Flood, and David -v- Goliath. The Flood story has its roots in the history of the civilistations of Mesopotamia. The story existed long before the Hebrews became a distinct group. For people of our times, the idea of a global flood, and a vessel big enough to carry pairs of each type of animal is absurd, based on our knowledge of the diversity of lifeforms, and the lack of a planetwide sediment layer that would have formed as a result of flooding. However, the story originated amongst peoples of major river systems, so it is quite possible that some time in the distant past, not more than 12,000 years ago, there was an extreme flooding event in that part of the World. The religions of that part of the world which rely on anthropomorphic deities seem to have originated in that early post-Ice Age period. So the Flood story has been absorbed by the Hebrews and then the influences of a deity have been added in.

 

David - Goliath is probably an actual event that has had the influences of a deity added. We of the modern Western World do not have much knowledge of David's weapon, the sling. But go to the Middle East and you will find young lads who can use the sling with deadly accuracy. In fact, in the Ancient World, including the Romans, the sling was an important weapon in battles. Think of it as the machine gun of its time. Then we have Goliath. It has been suggested that Goliath suffered from Gigantism. One of the effects of it is poor peripheral vision. There is a line in the Bible which quotes Goliath saying something that suggests poor eyesight. The combination of David's skill with teh sling, and Goliath's poor vision which would lead to inaccurate movement, means that David was odds-on to win. No involvement of a deity, but we all know that teh victors get to write the history.

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The Rainbow serpent Is Not Mentioned. Don't meddle with that Bugga.  Nev