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OK, you have asked so you only have yourself to blame. We roast coffee beans 200gm at a time. In the roasting process, you lose about 1/5th. Economically speaking green coffee beans are 1/2 the price of roasted beans. but as previously stated you lose 15% to 19%. So this still results in a large financial saving. What is more important to us is that we can control how our coffee tastes by manipulating the roasting profile. Yep, that may sound like a total wank but we get great pleasure in this. Life is too short to spend it whining. For goodness sake, do what gives you intense pleasure (as long as it harms no one}

That is interesting, those poor developers. Developers are the real downtrodden in society. I imagine you would be donating your excess income to these poor people. But seriously there may be a grain of truth in what you say so please post some facts or links. By the way, you may have a fantastic point so please elaborate.

Ha you probably think I don't know how many beans go in each cup. Coffee is my passion (yep waiting to be attacked) We do buy raw green beans and roast them ourselves. Yes this may sound crazy but my wife and I gain considerable pleasure from this

Honestly, I cant be bothered to look at your first paragraph (sorry), But tell me this what is the downside of Canada, Finland, Norway, and New Zealand?

So why oppose it?

Yep, that is because it is largely bullshit. Yep is a few airports the arrivals boards have alternated (oh my god how will we cope) but I read an article that said that the name of Brisbane was going to change to the Aboriginal name/ As far as I can see this is hysterical bullshit designed to enraged those of limited intellect. I don't say this just out of gut feeling but I have searched for this (google is your friend) the best quote I came across was this (sorry for profanity) "Shock jocks building their own strawmen and then wanking themselves dry with rage. Nothing in it" I have seen this before. mabo ooooohhhh they will take people's houses. Gay marriage, oh next people will be wanting the right to marry animals. All right-wing bullshit. These people are just afraid of any change.

Still waiting for good arguments against it. Don't just say that "if I don't understand it I should squeal little girl and reject it. Give an example of a country where this kind of thing has been instituted and the wheels have fallen off.

the thing is that you are foolish enough to fall fall the medias outrage campaign https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/annastacia-palaszczuk-says-reports-brisbane-may-be-renamed-to-indigenous-equivalent-absolute-nonsense/news-story/c29afdc2d5029d85ab9d63cd547702c1 Change of names is not this wholesale assault you folks believe it to be

And yet you will.

Still waiting. My point is that this change if anything thing too minimal, C'man tell me how this will wreck the country. It would be preferable if you didn't quote evangelical Christian groups, US conservative groups, or right-wing think tanks. I can tell you that I am open-minded but I will not settle for "derp I don't know what might happen so I can't vote for it, cus i do not have the intellectual capacity to research the implications myself" Give me meaningful factual well-researched arguments of f^^^ off"

I am waiting in great expectation for an INTELECTUAL argument against the flimsiest change to the constitution. It won't come because it is BS

No, we used fingers. I should say that if you asked, how do we take our coffee? the answer would be "very seriously" We buy green beans and roast them ourselves.

It is lucky we don't have coffee-coloured floor coverings,

I don't normally post in gripes because my life is pretty good and I am not impressed by whingers. This morning was not the best. My first task of the day is to make coffee for myself and my lovely wife. We are in the midst of installing a new rangehood in our kitchen so things are a bit unorganized. This morning the coffee bean canister slipped from my grasp. I did not drop the container but (lid off) did do that thing where you juggle an object before retaining control of it. This resulted in a majestic arc of coffee beans across my kitchen floor. If this is a gripe then it is a gripe of a privileged white bloke and does not deserve any sympathy at all as none is expected.

Oh no Norway and Finland will be ruined Sámi Parliament of Norway And what about poor Canada Indigenous Advisory Committee Oh no, what will become of Canada? Māori electorates NZ mm strange that they suffer under the oppressive yoke of a Maori parliament and yet seem happy enough.

(1) There shall be a body to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; (2) The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; (3) The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures. I am not particularly knowledgeable about constitutional law however I do like to think I am able to seek out and understand the opinions of those who are. I am more than happy to consider arguments that are well-presented but I don't like my intellect being insulted by the argument that "if you do not know you should vote No. Anyone who uses this argument to justify their vote seems pretty pathetic to me. Appeals based on fear are not persuasive to me. The invoking of "apartheid" is ridiculous. If anyone can read the actual referendum question and explain to me how this equates the apartheid I will be happy to consider the argument. Canada has an indigenous advisory committee. New Zealand has Maori parliament seats and Norway and Finland have the Saami parliament to advise the government. These countries are not basket cases. Don't fall for the scare campaign. In fact, NZ, Finland, and Norway score higher on the "happiness index" than Australia. This could be disputed but clearly, it hasn't made life unbearable in these countries, has it????? Apart from the pros and cons argument sometimes it is interesting to be curious about those who support one side or the other. If I were for a no vote (which I am not) I would be pretty embarrassed by those who are putting money into the no case. Indigenous voice: no campaign’s deep links to conservative Christian politics revealed It does require a rigorous level of persuasion to convince me of an argument where the main protagonists are The Institute of Public Affairs, Sky News (Bolt et al) Pauline Hanson, and others of the far right and other conservative groups. Mainstream churches are for the yes case however evangelicals are against it. I do not want to align with these people and organizations. Those who are against on this forum have been pretty lame at providing a strong no-case argument.

Sky News seems to be the only source I can find for this story and it seems to be very short on hard facts. I did find this story though. Annastacia Palaszczuk says reports Brisbane may be renamed to Indigenous equivalent ‘absolute nonsense’ I would have thought that if this were true it would be picked up by more than one news outlet.

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I believe the Pleiades has around 3000 stars. 6 or 7 of these can be seen with the naked eye depending on eyesight and light pollution.

Not sure about that. Pleiades When I was a teenager I was obsessed with astronomy and had a reasonable telescope. the Pleiades were great to look at. Fun fact. Back in the seventies, our family car was an early Subaru. Does this look familiar? Yes, Peiiades is called Subaru in Japan and is the symbol far Subaru cars.

Here is an interesting article about The Economic Impact of Hosting the Olympics This is a couple of interesting quotes from the article. Los Angeles is the only host city that realized a profit from the games, mostly because the required infrastructure already existed The Bottom Line Hosting the Olympics tends to result in severe economic deficiencies for cities. Unless a city already has the existing infrastructure to support the excess crowds pouring in, not hosting the Olympics may be the best option.

I had forgotten about this but the Olympic stadium in Sydney was going to be demolished and rebuilt. Sydney Olympic Stadium set to be demolished and rebuilt less than 20 years after hosting successful Games Plan to demolish Sydney Olympic stadium delayed after backlash Luckily good sense prevailed. I am not suggesting that no money should go into this kind of thing or that extensive renovations should not be done. The problem is that these things tend to become about prestige, a competition between cities.

If everything has to be built anew each time then perhaps this is not economically sustainable. The practice of building Olympic or Commonwealth facilities in a new city every 4 years does seem a little crazy to me.

I wonder why the Olympics cant be hosted without building new facilities each time. One of the problems seems to be that each game has to big better than the last one. I am sure that most capital cities in Australia already have an Olympic-sized swimming pool and courts and fields etc.

Seems like a sensible decision to me. "What's become clear is that the cost of hosting these Games in 2026 is not the $2.6 billion which was budgeted and allocated," he said. Mr Andrews said the true cost was likely to be closer to $6 billion or $7 billion and the state simply could not afford it. "I will not take money out of hospitals and schools to host an event that is three times the cost estimated and budgeted for last year." My criticism of this government would be bidding for the games in the first place.