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A few years ago I bought a smoke detector for my house. Smoke detectors are mandatory. The alarm has never saved me from a fire. I think I should be able to get a refund.

BS This is just in Victoria So in Victoria 2020-2023 there were 5617 serious injuries from crashes with 1079 of those being life-threatening plus around 300 deaths. This is where a lot of the CTP that I pay goes. If get hit by a drunk driver or perhaps an eldrly driver who makes a mistake I will be somewhat compensated. You seem not to care about these people. I dont know how to say this i a different way. If you never make a claim you are still getting a service. The service is indemnity from being sued for millions because you make a mistake. "CTP insurance covers vehicle owners and drivers if they hurt or fatally injure someone in a car accident. According to the TAC, the insurance will cover the owner and driver for any liability including large court payouts. The TAC says it pays an average of $170,000 for each road death and an average of $2.25 million for each serious injury (such as traumatic brain and spinal injuries)."

GON, you do use the service. As well as paying for those injured, your premium indemnifies you from being sued for injuring other road users and yourself. Your premium means you can drive around in reasonable confidence that you won't be sued for millions of dollars. A question GON if you were in charge, what would you do? Would you say "screw you" to the kid hit by a car or the driver who is hit by a drunk driver or just the driver who makes a mistake? You say CTP is mandatory; however, you are not compelled to drive a car. There are many areas in which the common good sometimes dictates legal compulsion. Many of us here fly or have flown in the past. Being grown-ups we understand that along with the freedom to fly comes responsibilities. Our aircaft must be maintained tp the prescribed standards. The safety of other air users and people on the ground is crucial. As grown-ups we understand that rights come with responsibilities. GON can you answer this question? If you got your wish an CTP was not mandatory, and you ran off the road and hit a pedestrian, would you pay for the (posibly lifetime) care of your victim? The average payout to a severely disabled victim? Also if a drunk driver ran into you and rendered you quadraplegic, would you be able to support yourself? There are all sorts of insurances that are not voluntary. A doctor needs to have indemnity insurance. Even as a private music teacher, I was required to have indemnity insurance. It is just part of being a grown-up and participating in society

GON, you don't seem to understand how insurance works. Money flows into an insurance fund, but it also flows out. Every year, people suffer catastrophic injuries on the road. We share the financial risk. If you got your money back because you never claimed, how would the insurance company pay out those who do have an accident? You do get something you get: Some financial indemnity should you have an accident that severely injures another road user. Insurance pays out for your mistake rather than you being sued into financial oblivion. A financial payout to cover medical expenses, etc, should you become a quadriplegic due to an accident that may be your fault or perhaps someone else's fault. Payouts also go to those good drivers who are injured by bad drivers. I presume you consider yourself to be a good driver. The money you have paid over the years into CTP helps to ensure that if you have an accident (whether your fault or someone else's) and you have life-changing injuries, there is money to support YOU. GON, this statement is so wrong. SAFE DRIVERS ARE ALSO INJURED ON THE ROAD. YOU COULD BE THE RECIPIENT ONE DAY. We could have no compulsory 3rd party injury insurance, but what would you do if you were rendered disabled by an uninsured driver and you required lifetime care? Unless we are prepared to let a severely disabled person crawl around their house trying to feed themselves, then someone has to pay something.

That is not how insurance works. I assume you are talking about 3rd party injury insurance? The premiums paid for insurance are enough to pay out for those injured, plus operating costs, plus a profit for the insurance company. The money you pay in premiums is at least partially expended on those who are injured on the road. If you are injured, you will benefit. If you accidentally injure someone on the road, the insurance should pay, instead of you being sued into oblivion for disabling another motorist or pedestrian. I have never had a car accident and injured someone, but being a rational person, I understand that the possibility exists, no matter how careful I am. I can't fathom what insurance has to do with voting. You really do seem to have a persecution complex. Ummm wouldn't remaining in the system entail being politically engaged? Which politicians? The politicians who conscripted you are long gone. I doubt you would find many politicians who are pro-conscription at this point. There may well be the odd right-wing politician who, every few years, bangs on about bringing back conscription, but I suspect society would not be up for it. Conscription ended 53 years ago. Perhaps it is time to somewhat let go of the past and concentrate on living a happy life. I know of a few people on this forum who were also conscripted, but they don't appear to let it define them or link everything bad in their lives to it.

On our morning walk, we had a close look at the Young Endeavour. We had a long chat with the Captain. The people in the rigging were doing an exercise where they practised rescuing someone injured in the rigging. The Captain told us all about the "Young Endeavour" program, where they take 24 young people between 16 and 24, and teach them all the skills required to sail this ship. We found this chat to be quite uplifting. Under the scheme, 24 to 30 "youth crew" (aged between 16 and 23) join a voyage to supplement the 9-10 naval personnel from the Mine Warfare, Hydrographic and Patrol Boat Force, which Young Endeavour is attached to.[2][3][6][7] Over 500 youth crew per year participate in the scheme, and are selected for the voyages by a biannual ballot.[6] Each voyage typically lasts ten to eleven days, during which the youth crew rotate through most roles aboard the ship, stand watches, and help with Young Endeavour's operation.[6] Near the end of the voyage, the crew undergoes "command day": a 24-hour period in which the ship is entirely under control of the youth crew.[5] As part of most voyages, the combined crew takes a group of special needs youth on a half-day sail.[6] Between the scheme's inception in 1988 and mid-2018, over 13,500 youth have participated in voyages, while another 11,500 special needs youth have been involved in half-day sails.[6] The vessel is at sea for approximately 240 days per year.[7]

Yeah, that was my initial concern. When I rang them up, they didn't seem surprised. Anyway, back in my name now.

I was a little surprised to receive this email from Vicroads this morning. Nice one Vicroads, since I have neither sold nor otherwise disposed of the car. My wife was out in the car at the time, so I did wonder if she had sold the car and done a runner! Anyway the fix is in the works.

I am in the lucky position of getting hand-me-downs from my father-in-law. Basically, whenever he upgrades, I get his old one, which is still pretty good. This does lead to some good-natured banter. I will often remind him that the new Pixel phone is out, and perhaps he should upgrade. If I had to, I probably would spend a reasonable (but not stupid) amount on a phone. The camera is quite important to me. I have been a keen photographer for many years, but these days, a good phone camera produces pictures as good as my trusty SLR and at a fraction of the weight. I do tend to use plenty of apps. Many of these apps save me money or time, and some are just interesting, such as star charts or bird/plant identification. When we see damaged infrastructure or vandalism or dumped rubbish or abandoned trollies etc, we use an app called Snap Send Solve, take a picture and you can at the touch of a button, have that info sent to the appropriate people. We have used this mainly for abandoned trolleys or dumped rubbish, and the problem was remedied quickly, and you get a report back. When it comes to my phone, that is the function I probably use the least.

In defence of iPhone (and I do not own one and have never owned one or have plans to be one), they are superior for the hearing impaired. My sister in law has had severe hearing loss for many years and really relies upon her iPhone and its interaction with her hearing aids. Whilst Android may be catching up, it is still behind. iPhones offer more advanced and integrated built-in hearing aid support than Android, including seamless integration with MFi-certified devices, features like Live Listen to turn the phone into a microphone, and upcoming software that allows AirPods to function as hearing aids with personalized settings. While Android devices have some hearing aid compatibility features, they generally require more setup via apps and lack the depth of system-level integration and features found on iOS.

Is this the sort of thing you approve of? This is one of many instances of thuggish brutality from these morons. I have no problem with deporting criminals, but that is not what is happening. There are plenty of examples, such as a New Zealand woman taken into custody or the Canadian woman. They should investigate people first and determine whether there is evidence of illegality, and then arrest, rather than arresting people, often with excessive force people merely because they look foreign.

I have been there. quite spectacular

Nope Trove (from the National Library), although some images you can download, but not republish) . I am not saying you can't have any objections, but let's not make a straw man argument. There is total no ban on taking photos at Uluru or the National Gallery, for that matter. Yes, if you are going to make money off those pictures, there is a permit fee. Here is a commercial site that SELLS [pictures. Presumably, these people paid and are now reselling. I have been to many religious sites around the world that have rules or restrictions, and as an atheist, I find it hard to understand, but I do cope with it. I fully accept other opinions as long as I am free to put my opinion. Often, I make points such as, if difficult place names are a danger to tourists, then surely this means changing hundreds of preexisting difficult names (logical isnt it?) I am happy for this idea to be challenged, but no one does; they just move on to photo permits. I know I am probably considered a woke idiot, but I feel that at least I put some effort into my arguments. Any, I will leave it to you guys to argue about

OK re phoitos at Uluru. As usual, the conservative press tells half a story in order to stoke outrage. When I read that article, I was led to believe that you could not take holiday snaps. Yes, you do need a permit for COMMERCIAL photography, and this does include influencers. These people were travel bloggers, I,E, making money. Whether these rules are over the top or not is open for debate. Here are the rules: I’m just grabbing some photos for my personal use. You won’t need to get a media permit but you need to stick to the designated paths and respect the rules. There are some no-go areas and places where you can’t film. However, there are plenty of signposted areas where you can capture the essence of Australia’s Red Centre. I’m planning to use the videos and images for commercial use. This is where you need to get a permit and agree to a host of rules and regulations. It is advised to get your permit well in advance.

Not sure what this has to do with how difficult Indigenous names are to pronounce. I read the article, and the people did not seem to be whinging about the rules; they just wanted to make others aware of the rules. "We want to clarify the intention of this post: to openly own our mistakes caused by misunderstanding the guidelines around filming and photography at Uluru and Kata Tjuta,' she said. 'Our goal was to share honestly and help fellow travellers and creators enjoy their journeys while avoiding the same errors we made.' 'This isn't about criticism or blame, just transparency and learning,' she added." They seem to be reasonable people; however, of course, Sky News is all for stoking outrage. If I go into an art gallery and there is a no photography rule, then that's it. Again, what does this have to do with place names?

How dare you, only the finest Whisky

The problem is, we speak English in Australia, and it's our primary language SydneyWhen I moved to Sydey from Adelaide, I was a bit stumped by some Sydney suburb, Sans Souci comes to mind. Of the list of Australian names I posted, which ones do you think need to be changed for the safety of tourists, Woolongong or Yealerong? We are no9t mtalkoi9ng about renaming something here. This is a new park. Do you want it to be called Earls Court or Canterbury? My son moved to NZ 11 years ago and because he is not a halfwit he leartned how to pronounce place names. When I visit, I take the time to learn a few simple rules so as not to look like a halfwit. Wh fff.l It is easy. I suspect that people whinging about this do not care about older established names but just hate anything new. Do these people lose their sh1t when they hear Gundagai (what should we change that to?) When I worked in Canberra, I did not lose my sh1t of suburbs like Ngunnawal, this was pre-internet, but I imagine I asked a proud local. When my son moved to NZ his tiny brain did not explode. Every country has place names that are unique and possibly not straightforward. How would you folk cope in the UK? Woolfardisworthy (pronounced Woolz er ree) and the list is huge. The argument that these must be a danger to tourists is drawing a long bow, I think In terms of the name inj question,l I can't put it any simpler. The g is silent as it is in many English words. Surely .

It is only considered unpronounceable because it is a little new to us. As a British immigrant (came when I was 18 months old), I am intensely proud of Australia and our unique place names. Would you rather that everything be named after English place names? Perhaps Windsor or St George or something. Look it seems to me that anyone of average intelligence should be able to cope with this, the only (slight) trick in here is that the g in Ngarrak is silent. It is easy, I am sure you can cope, but if not, here is how it is pronounced Here is a list of Australian names. I love that these names are unique to Australia. A← Adaminaby Adelong Ajana[3] Adelong Akuna Bay Aldinga Allambie Allambie Heights Allanooka Allawah Allora Amaroo Amelup Anembo Angledool Angourie Angurugu Anula Arakoon Araluen Arana Hills Aranda Aratula Ardmona Areyonga Argalong Arrawarra Arrino[3] Attunga Aurukun Awaba →B← Baandee[3] Babakin[3] Badgebup[3] Badgingarra[3] Badjaling[3] Bailup[4] Baladjie[3] Balagundi[3] Balarang Balbarrup[3] Balcatta[4] Balga[4] Balgarri[3] Balingup[3] Ballarat Balkuling[3] Ballaballa[3] Bamaga Banya Banyo Barangaroo Bardoc[3] Bargo Baringa Barra Brui (East Gordon) Barraba Barragup[4] Baryulgil Beerburrum Beechina[4] Beeliar[4] Beerwah Bega Bellambi Bellara Bellata Bejoording[3] Belka[3] Belmunging[3] Bemboka Benalla Bencubbin[3] Bendering[3] Benjaberring[3] Berala Berrara Beria[3] Bermagui Berowra Berri Bewong Creek Bilbarin[3] Billimari Biloela Binalong Bindi Bindi[3] Bindoon[3] Binnaway Binningup[3] Binna Burra Binnu[3] Birralee Birrong Birtinya Bli Bli Bodalla Bodallin[3] Buddina Bogan Gate Boggabilla Boggabri Bolaro Bolgart[3] Bolong Bomaderry Bombala Bombo Bondi Bong Bong Bongaree Boodarockin[3] Boogardie[3] Boolading[3] Boolaroo Booligal Boonoo Boonoo Boorabbin[3] Booragoon[4] Boorara[3] Boorowa Boreen Point Bowelling[3] Bowgada[3] Bowral Boya[4] Boyanup[3] Boyup Brook[3] Bredbo Brit Brit Broulee Brundee Buderim Budgewoi Bulimba Bullaring[3] Bulli Buln Buln Bullaburra Bulong[3] Bung Bong Bundamba Bundanoon Bundeena Bungulla[3] Bunjil[3] Bunyip Burakin[3] Buraja Burekup[3] Burpengary Buronga Burracoppin[3] Burran Rock[3] Burraneer Buttaba →C← Caboolture Cabramatta Cabramurra Calga Calingiri[3] Caiguna Callala Caloundra Cammeray Canbelego Canberra Candelo Canna[3] Carbunup River[3] Cardup[4] Caringbah Carnamah[3] Caron[3] Carrabin[3] Carramar[4] Chinocup[3] Chittering[3] Clackline[3] Clybucca Cobargo Cocklebiddy Collarenebri Collaroy Conargo Condingup[3] Congelin[3] Coodanup[4] Coogee Coogee[4] Cookernup[3] Coolac Coolah Coolamon Coolangatta Coolbellup[4] Coolbinia[4] Coolgardie[3] Coolimba[3] Cooloongup[4] Coolup[3] Cooma Coomalbidgup[3] Coonabarabran Coonamble Coonawarra Cooran Coorow[3] Cooroy Cootamundra (but Cootamundry Creek) Coraki Coramba Cordering[3] Corowa Corrigin[3] Corrimal Corryong Couridjah Corindi Cowandilla Cowaramup[3] Cowcowing[3] Cowra Cringila Cronulla Cuballing[3] Cuddingwarra[3] Cudgewa Cudmirrah Culburra Cullacabardee[4] Cunderdin[3] Cunjerong Point Curl Curl Currambine[4] Currarong Currumbin Currumundi →D← Dalaroo[3] Dalwallinu[3] Dalyup[3] Dandaragan[3] Dandenong Dangin[3] Dardanup[3] Darkan[3] Dapto Dattening[3] Deniliquin Derrimut Dharruk Diddillibah Dinninup[3] Dimbulah Dirranbandi Doonan Drik Drik Drouin Dongara[3] Doodlakine[3] Dooralong Dowerin[3] Dubbo Dudinin[3] Dukin[3] Dumbleyung[3] Dungog Duranillin[3] Duri Dwarda[3] Dwellingup[3] →E← Echuca Echunga Ejanding[3] Elanora Eleebana Eneabba[3] Eradu[3] Erina Ettalong Ettamogah Eucla[3] Eugowra Eujinyn[3] Eulaminna[3] Eumundi Eungai Euroa Eurobodalla Eurunderee →G← Gabanintha[3] Gabbin[3] Gagalba Galong Ganmain Garah Geelong Gerogery Gerringong Gidgegannup[4] Gilgandra Gindalbie[3] Gingin[3] Ginninderra Giralang Girraween Girrawheen[4] Gnangara[4] Gnowangerup[3] Goodna Goodooga Gooloogong Goomalling[3] Goondi Goondiwindi Goonellabah Goonengerry Goongarrie[3] Goonoo Goonoo Goornong[5] Gringegalgona Grong Grong Gulargambone Gunbalanya Gudarra[3] Gulgong Gullewa[3] Gundagai Gundamaian Gundaroo Gungahlin Gunnedah Gunyidi[3] Guyra Gwambygine[3] Gwelup[4] Gymea →H← Howatharra[3] Howlong →I← Illabo Illaroo Illalong Illawong Iluka[4] Inala Indooroopilly Ingebyra Innaloo[4] Imbil →J← Jamberoo Jandabup[4] Jannali Jardee[3] Jeebropilly Jennacubbine[3] Jeparit Jerangle Jerdacuttup[3] Jerrabomberra Jerramungup[3] Jimboomba Jincumbilly Jindabyne Jindalee, Queensland Jindalee[4] Jingalup[3] Jindabyne Jindera Jingellic Jitarning[3] Joondalup[4] Jugiong →K← Kalamunda[4] Kalannie[3] Kalbarri[3] Kaleen Kalgan[3] Kalgoorlie[3] Kallangur Kallaroo[4] Kalli Kambah Kambalda[3] Kameruka Kanahooka Kangy Angy Kanowna[3] Kanwal Karawara[4] Karrabin Karingal Karangi Kardinya[4] Kareela Kariong Karlgarin[3] Karnup[4] Karragullen[4] Karrakatta[4] Karrakup[4] Karratha[3] Karridale[3] Karrinyup Karuah Karumba Katanning[3] Katoomba Kauring[3] Kebaringup[3] Kellerberrin[3] Kemblawarra Kendenup[3] Keperra Kerang Khancoban Kiah Kiama Kiara[4] Kiewa Kiley Killara Kirrawee Kirribilli Kirup[3] Kogarah Kojonup[3] Kokardine[3] Konnongorring[3] Koo Wee Rup Koojan[3] Koolan[3] Koolanooka[3] Koolewong Koolyanobbing[3] Koonawarra Koondoola[4] Koongamia[4] Koorda[3] Kooragang Koreelah Korrelocking[3] Kooringal Korumburra Kotara Kowanyama Krambach Kudardup[3] Kukerin[3] Kulikup[3] Kulin[3] Kulja[3] Kulyalling[3] Kumari Kundana[3] Kunjin[3] Kununoppin[3] Kununurra[3] Kuranda Kurnalpi[3] Kurnell Kurrawang[3] Kweda[3] Kwelkan[3] Kwinana[4] Kwolyin[3] Kyancutta Kyogle Kurri Kurri Kyabram Kyeemagh Kywong →L← Lake Cooroibah Lameroo Lang Lang Larrakeyah Legana Lenah Valley Leongatha Leumeah Leura Liawenee Lilli Pilli Loorana Lurnea Lutana →M← Magati Ke Malanda Maleny Mallina[3] Malua Bay Manangatang Mandiga[3] Mandogalup[4] Manera Heights Mandurah[4] Mandurama Mandurang Maningrida Manildra Manilla Manjimup[3] Manmanning[3] Maralinga Marangaroo[4] Marayong Marbelup[3] Marchagee[3] Mardella[4] Mareeba Marmong Point Maroochydore Maroota Maroubra Mareeba Marree Maribyrnong Mariginiup[4] Mathoura Matong Maya[3] Mayanup[3] Maydena Meckering[3] Meekatharra[3] Meenaar[3] Mendooran Menindee Merimbula Merredin[3] Merriwa[4] Merrygoen Mia Mia Michelago Miling[3] Millaa Millaa Millmerran Milparinka Milperra Mindarie[4] Minnamurra Mingenew[3] Minyip Mirrabooka[4] Mittagong Moama Moe Mogo Monbulk Mollymook Moodiarrup[3] Moojebing[3] Mooloolaba Moonah Moonbi Mooloolaba Mooney Mooney Moonijin[3] Moora[3] Moorabbin Moorine Rock[3] Moornaming[3] Moorooka Mooroolbark Mooroopna Moorumbine[3] Morawa[3] Mordialloc Moree Moruya Moulyining[3] Mount Colah Mount Ku-ring-gai Mount Warrigal Muchea[3] Mudgee Mudjimba Muja[3] Mukinbudin[3] Mulgarrie[3] Mulgoa Mullaloo[4] Mullalyup[3] Mullengandra (formerly Mullanjandra) Mullewa[3] Mulline[3] Mullumbimby Mulwarrie[3] Mundaring[4] Mundijong[4] Mundubbera Mungindi Mungalup[3] Munglinup[3] Muntadgin[3] Murarrie Muradup[3] Murdunna Murrin Murrin[3] Murrumba Downs Murrumbeena Murrumburrah Murrurundi Murwillumbah Myalup[3] Myaree[4] →N← Nabawa[3] Nabiac Nalkain[3] Nalya[3] Nambrok Nambucca Nana Glen Nangeenan[3] Nannine[3] Nannup[3] Naracoopa Naraling[3] Narara Nareena Hills Narembeen[3] Naremburn Narkal[3] Narooma Narwee Narrabeen Narrabri Narrabundah Narrandera Nar Nar Goon Narngulu[3] Narrabundah Narrandera Narrawallee Narre Warren Narraweena Narrikup[3] Narrogin[3] Narromine Needilup[3] Neendaling[3] Neerabup[4] Nelligen Nemingha Nerriga Nerrigundah Ngunnawal Nhulunbuy Nimmitabel Ningi Nippering[3] Nirimba Noarlunga Noggerup[3] Nollamara[4] Noojee[3] Noongal[3] Noongar[3] Noosa North Dandalup[3] North Yunderup[4] Nowergup[4] Nowra Nugadong[3] Nullagine[3] Numbah Nungarin[3] Nungatta Nunngarra[3] Nuriootpa Nyabing[3] Nyngan →O← Omeo Ongerup[3] Ourimbah Ouyen →P← Pambula Papunya Panania Pannawonica[3] Parraburdoo[3] Paringa Parramatta Patchewollock Patonga Pawleena Pegarah Pemulwuy Penna Perenjori[3] Peringillup[3] Pialligo Piawaning[3] Pindar[3] Pingaring[3] Pingelly[3] Pingrup[3] Pinjar[4] Pinjarra[3] Pintharuka[3] Pinwernying[3] Pithara[3] Poatina Pooncarie Pootenup[3] Popanyinning[3] Pormpuraaw Porongurup Primbee Pyree →Q← Quaama Quairading[3] Qualeup[3] Quambone Queanbeyan Quandialla Quigup[3] Quindalup[3] Quindanning[3] Quirindi →R← Ramingining Reekara →S← South Kumminin[3] South Yunderup[4] →T← Tahmoor Talbingo Tallangatta Tallawarra Tallebudgera Tambellup[3] Tammin[3] Tangambalanga Tanilba Bay Tanunda Tarago Taralga Taranna Tarcutta Taree Taringa Taroo Taroona Tarragindi Tarraleah Tarrawanna Tarzali Tathra Telarah Tenindewa[3] Teralba Terara Terrigal Tewantin Tharwa Thirroul Thredbo Thurgoona Tibooburra Tilpa Timbillica Tincurrin[3] Tingalpa Tingha Tintaldra Tolga Tomerong Tongarra Toodyay[3] Toogoolawah Toukley Toolibin[3] Tooloom Toombul Toongabbie Toowong Toowoomba Toolijooa Toowong Toukley Towradgi Towrang Trangie Trayning[3] Tuckanarra[3] Tuggerah Tuggeranong Tuggerawong Tullimbar Tumbarumba Tumbi Umbi Tumblong Tumut Tuncurry Tura Beach Turlinjah Turramurra →U← Uki Umina Unanderra Uraidla Uriarra Uralla Urana Urunga →W← Wadalba Waddamanna Wadderin[3] Wagaman Wagerup[3] Wagga Wagga Wagin[3] Wahroonga Walbundrie Walcha Walgoolan[3] Walla Walla Wallabadah Wallangarra Wallerawang Walwa Wamberal Wanaaring Wandandian Wandering[3] Wandi[4] Wandoan Wangaratta Wangi Wangi Wannamal[3] Wannanup[4] Wanneroo[4] Wantirna Waramanga Warana Waratah Warrimoo Waroona Warrachuppin[3] Warragul Warralakin[3] Warrandyte Warrawong Warrnambool Warumbul Watheroo[3] Wee Waa Welbungin[3] Werombi Weetangera Werribee West Toodyay[3] Wialki[3] Wickepin[3] Widgiemooltha[3] Wilcannia Wilga[3] Wilkawatt Willagee[4] Willunga Wiluna[3] Windang Windellama Wingala Wingello Wodalba Wodonga Wogarl[3] Wokalup[6] Wollombi Wollomombi Wollongong Wooloowin Wonboyn Wongai Wongan Hills[3] Wonnerup[3] Woodanilling[3] Woodarra[3] Woolgoolga Wooli Woollahra Woolloomooloo Woolloongabba Woongarra Woori Yallock Woorim Wombarra Wongawilli Woodenbong Woolgoolga Woollamia Woomargamah Woomera Woonona Wooroloo[4] Wonthaggi Worrigee Woy Woy Wubin[3] Wujal Wujal Wulkuraka Wundowie[3] Wurtulla Wyalkatchem[3] Wyee Wyening[3] Wymah Wyong Wyongah →Y← Yackandandah Yagoona Yalgoo[3] Yallah Yallakool Yallambie Yalup Brook[3] Yalwal Yamba Yambacoona Yanchep[4] Yanco Yandanooka[3] Yanderra Yandina Yarrahapinni Yerrinbool Yangebup[4] Yanmah[3] Yannawah Yannergee Yantabulla Yarding[3] Yarloop[3] Yaroomba Yarrabah Yarrabandai Yarralumla Yarram Yarramalong Yarraman Yarrawarrah Yarrawonga Yarra Bay Yarri[3] Yatala Yattalonga Yatte Yattah Yealering[3] Yeerongpilly Yelbeni[3] Yellowdine[3] Yennora Yeppoon Yerecoin[3] Yeronga Yerrinbool Yilliminning[3] Yirrkala Yokine Yolla Yoogali Yornaning[3] Yoting[3] Youanmi[3] Youndegin[3] Yoweragabbie[3] Yowie Bay Yowrie Yuendumu Yulara Yullundry Yuluma Yuna[3] Yundamindera[3] Yungaburra Yunndaga[3] Regions and shires not named after town, river, etc. Banyule City Council Baryulgil Barrenjoey Boroondara City Council Buloke Shire Corangamite Shire Demondrille Shire (abolished) Eurobodalla Shire Gannawarra Shire Illawarra Ku-ring-gai Municipality Moorabool Shire Mulwaree Shire (abolished) Murrumbidgee Murrundindi Shire Ngaanyatjarraku Nillumbik Shire Orana Region Pilbara Warringah Shire Yarriambiack Shire Natural features Beaches (not named after town or suburb) Belongil Bouddi Bulgo Beach Bungan Elouera Era Beach (North and South) Garie Beach Tamarama Beach Wanda Wattamolla Werri Beach Werrong Beach Bays Akuna Careel Curracurrang Cove Curracurrong Cove Erowal Bay Gunamatta Malua Myuna Bay Tanilba Bay Toowoon Waratah Yowie Lakes Budgewoi Bungunnia 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I wasn't sure whether to post this obit given that this fellow may not fit into the "well-known: category. I do tend to judge people as to whether they have heard of him or not. The brilliant Tom Lehrer died on the 26 of July 2025. at the age of 97. He was known as a musical satirist, mathematician, and scientist. Tom worked at Los Alamos and Harvard University, among other places. Lehrer quit writing and performing satirical songs and went back to teaching, stating that "Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.” In our house in the 90s, Tom was played daily. We even still have a recording of our son, aged about five, singing along with every song (including the elements). Perhaps that is why our son turned out smart, woke and happy. Here are a few examples of Leher's whimsical music.

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The auto subtitling has quite a high degree of accuracy, but when it does mess up, it can be quite amusing. My son owns a computer game development company. About once a week, one of the team members produces a short YouTube video talking about updates to their main game and upcoming developments. The fellow who does this is German, although he speaks English without much of an accent. A couple of years ago, I watched one of these videos, and I had subtitles on. He talked about how an update would be delayed because there were some small problems to fix. He said, "There are still some NIGGLES in the system" Unfortunately, the auto subtitle heard the word NIGGLES as, shall we say, a racially offensive word with almost the same letters. Reading the comments, everyone understood what had happened, and it did lead to some quite humorous posts.

GON, you have certainly made me think. In the past, I considered it an injustice to force people to go to war; however, I never really thought of those who were forced to train, even if they never ended up in Vietnam. I fully support recognition for these people. Having said that, you cannot change the past. I am definitely not saying that "it was a long time ago, so just get over it." Those 2 years can not be retrieved, but this makes it all the more important to make the remaining years as joyful as you can. As I posted elsewhere, we spent 20 months almost as prisoners in our own home due to knife and gun-wielding drug dealers next door. Against all odds, we won. We did consider that we would not win, and so we worked on a plan on how we could cope and still have a happy life. We found that when it was getting us down, taking action (even if not an immediate game changer) improved our mental health. Despair is bad enough, but adding helplessness makes it so much worse. I did see a petition online that was asking for "Nashos" who did not end up going to Vietnam to be granted the same benefits, such as a gold card. Although perhaps the odds of success are low, the act of taking positive steps is mentally healthier than just dwelling on the original problem. As a non-believer, I accept that this life is all there is, so I don't want to waste it getting hung up on past injustices or past mistakes. The past is unchangeable, but the future is something we can have some control over

Ye, I totally agree. I would describe us as being on the woke end of the scale. Mrs Ocatve and I have regular conversations about how the system could be better, although we don't come up with much. One of our neighbours worked with someone who knew of this woman, and they said she went to an exclusive school and her father is a retired policeman. The nature of the operation seemed to change with time. At first, we would see her walking out a few steps behind hard-looking men. We put it to Housing that perhaps she was being manipulated. After about 6 months, it became clear that us neighbours were reporting things to the police. The "hard men" seemed to visit less, and she began to be the one coming and going with minions following her. We suspect that she started to play a bigger part and was ambitious. In our meetings with housing, there was a lot of info that they had, but for privacy reasons, they were unable to pass on. At one stage, she did have a legitimate job and was sacked. She took her employer to court for unfair dismissal and lost; however, she did appeal, and on the day of the appeal did not turn up. A lot of information came out at the VCAT hearing. After many warnings from housing, they told her that they would find her a new housing property, which apparently they did, and she turned it down. The presiding member (judge) asked her why she turned it down, and she said, "too many druggies in that suburb" She was also offered counselling, which she started and then stopped, but she claimed that the week before the hearing, she had resumed counselling. We were not sure that we would win the case. History shows that VCAT is very reluctant to evict anyone, and I understand that. The case for the housing department was put by a housing officer with no particular legal training, and the tenant had a lawyer from a housing advocate group (in fact 2 of them) Our local serious crime squad detective sergeant gave evidence first. We didn't hear his evidence because you can't go in until you give evidence, and then you can stay for the rest of the hearing. When he came out, he had a quiet word with us. He said, "Don't get hung up on the evidence, it has already been presented. emphasise the emotional toll" When I gave evidence, the member asked her legal team if they wanted to cross-examine me. The lawyer said, "No, we don't want to add further trauma to the neighbours. I started to feel more optimistic. They were not questioning the evidence. They put it to VCAT that the eviction was not fair and proportional Then came the beautiful part. She wasn't down to speak, having declined the opportunity. She suddenly changed her mind, and she did speak in her defence, but she really started to incriminate herself. She said that the people who visit are hardened criminals and that she is scared of them. Her defence was that she was a victim along with us neighbours. The presiding member was pretty switched on. He asked her why these people visit her. She tried to chage the subject, but he persisted. "What is the motivation for these criminals to come to your house?." She said, "Because I'm a soft touch", she said. She then went on to say that she would often stay at her mother's house because she was scared to be at this property. In the verdict the member said "you say you are afraid to be at your property and you stay with your mother, you dont seem to want to be a anciallye property and your neighbors are suffering, the best thing is for you to vacate (14 days) of course it was more like a month because she did not even start moving until the police came to say that she would be physicall removed on monday. As to what can be done about this kind of problem, I don't really know. Housing can not vet anyone; if you qualify financially, then you are on the list. This woman, I believe, is back on the list and has a high priority. There are stories in the press about others who find themselves in this situation, and often the neighbours just have to move. We decided we would dig in. Some neighbours did give up and move. The police were pushing housing to move her to a particular area. I am not sure of the details, but I believe that it was about herding all the hard cases into one area where they could be more easily policed. I feel that even if housing offers properties to the hard cases that it needs to at least have a few strings attached. Perhaps you could earn your way into a better property with time and good behaviour. Although we are woke bleeding heart lefties, we don't feel too concerned. She has family in the area, and indeed, sometimes we would not see her for days. There would be times when she did not have others staying, and then things would be quiet, but this would not last long. Anyway, all is well, trauma gone, and the property is being sold to someone we know. We believe the outcome was fair and just; however, it took way too long and way too much effort on our part. Being retired helped, but sometimes we would put in a whole day's work looking through hours of doorbell footage and sending it to housing and the police. We know our evidence got several people arrested. We did wonder if there would be reprisals; however, it has been 2 months. These people were pretty dumb, and I suspect they have moved on. There is a saying about successful dealers don't use the products themselves or "don't get high on your own supply" The detective who arrested one of them told me that "he was as dumb as a speed bump" Here is a picture of Knife Man. (deidentified) Knife Man was high on some kind of upper and spent about 2 hours polishing his pushbike. We noticed that he had a scabbard attached to his bike. He wasn't being aggressive, in fact, a neighbour told him to keep the noise down, and he said "sorry mate" We called the police and they did apprehend him briefly, searched him and confiscated the knife.

Sorry, that was a typo, I meant to say we are definitely NOT anti-public housing, being that only 5% of tenants are problematic. I think the problem is that the system works, but very slowly. Checks and balances are necessary, but they need to move faster. Our neighbour was charged several times with drug possession, which is not enough to get you evicted. Drug dealing is enough to get you evicted; however, this drug dealing is but video of someone selling drugs is not enough. The police have to catch the person in possession of a certain amount of drugs, and these people know how to carry only this amount. If a tenant commits a serious crime, they can be evicted, although they have to be prosecuted and have been found guilty in court. A tenant is also responsible for the behaviour of her visitors. Here is a good example. One morning, a man turned up looking for the tenant and shouting abuse. One of our neighbours told him to keep the noise down. The man (allegedly) lifted his shirt to reveal a pistol in his waistband. This was reported to the police, but by the time they got here, the man had left. When it was reported to the housing department, they said (and it is true) that they can not act without evidence. The tenant denied knowing the man. I think it is fair and correct to give people a second chance, just not a fourth or fifth chance.