Jerry_Atrick

Yes.. its is neve his fault, but MAGA maniacs will hopefully start questioning whether his art of the deal is real or not.. It has been a very long one day to end the Ukranian war... By the time it ends, it will be the longest on record, I would suggest.

I am not arguing Vietnam was good, or that it did not provide enlightenment to the voting public of some of the wrongs out politicians have done from time immerorial to today, and will continue. But to suggest that Vietnam was the sole catalyst seems myopic.. There was a lot of social change going on thanks to other reasons, and Vietnam, as an event, coincided with that. Today, our voting population and politicians have resources to become informed and have foresight. The fact they don't is recklessness, and the chickens are coming home to roost on the recklessness if we look at workd events today.

I was thinking about this. At (Western) law, formal words are not the only things courts use to determine a state of affairs, nor a declaration - say for example in Australia - of the union of a couple giving legal rights akin to those of marriage. So, why do we need such formal declarations of war to start a war? So, I asked Mr Google, and his AI responded: "The Geneva Conventions don't prescribe a specific procedure for declaring war. However, they do outline rules for how armed conflicts, both declared and undeclared, should be conducted. While declarations of war were once common, they are no longer a prerequisite for the application of the Geneva Conventions." I would guess form the news over the last umpteen years, it is pretty clear that Iran and Israel have been at war, usually via proxies, such that a declaration is not needed. Ignorning the formal declaration of war, the Geneva convention would still apply if they are signatories. Even so, a war unfortunately claims civilian lives - it is the nature of the beast. No county fully segregates is civilians from its military. And I believe both sides are largely targetting military or government assets. Whether civilian only assets are intentionally being targetted I think will become evident in the days to come. Yes, Israel hit the state run TV station - although ironically that viral video of the news reader running for her life may have been spouting stuff about god protecting iran from bombs falling on them at the time according to some translations I have seen - which would at best be treated with caution.. I am not sure that would qualify for independent news service of, say, the ABC, BBC, and the like. However, happy to be corrected. What is acceptable civilised behaviour in a war? I don't mean this in an ideological context that all war is bad, etc (which I do agree with). I mean, if they are clearly at war with each other, as has been clear for years, and they are targeting most military and government assets and trying to minimise the civilian casualties. I would imagine in war, the grey areas of rules will be much wider than that of normal civilian life. Note, I haven't seen the latest reports this morning, or from what I have seen of them, doesn't indicatte strategic targeting of civilian assets from both sides. Also, these assertions are not limited to Iran and Israel. Russia famously didn't declare war in 2014 or their last invasion and were more sneaky the second time around. Yet, the world knew what they were up to. The other, non-Israel involved ME wars are brutal, and the many other skirmishes over the last 30 or so years, ironically with the exception of the yanks, have not had formal delcarations or notices of war/invasion. From Google AI: "Both Israel and Iran are parties to the main Geneva Conventions of 1949. However, neither has ratified the Additional Protocols I and II of 1977, which provide further protections for victims of armed conflict" oi, Iran hasn't directly invaded Israel.. it does it by proxy through funding any of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organisations with one aim only... And they regularly attack Israel - even before October 16th, Hamas used to fire rockets daily into Israel. And the others would regularly attempt some attack or other. So, the idea that Iran hasn't attackde or invaded Israel is only in the literal sense. A person who employs a hitman to kill someone is also guilty of the murder (or at least incitement). In terms of invasion, i the literal sense, firing rockets and missiles across a border is not an invasion of people or armed forces. However, isn't doesn't the Geneva convention regulat war. I would suggest that these days you don't need to have troops on the ground to fight a war.

Iran has created a bit of a problem for Trump with respect to his MAGA base. He was elected on the president of no wars, and a lot of MAGA are apparently tired of the US going to war in some far flung place, where US troops die and there is often little evidence to say they achieved what they achieved. I get that, So, we have the Steve Bannons of the world, who arguably is the co-founder of MAGA, critical of el pres going to war on Iran.. And we have the Lindsey Graham of the worlds - the weasely snake MAGA come lately saying - yeah drop the bombs. Apparently, there has already been a MAGA back lash, too. Trump is sort of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. That is the problem wihen your follower base is largely filled with ideological ignoramauses who simply latch onto agendas.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-18/united-states-donald-trump-on-iran-israel-conflict/105427146 Hopefully, whichever way he goes, thee will be silver lining to the cloud he brings.

Yeah.. but it rapidly became a damp squib on his departure.

Apaprently he claims they are made in the USA hen they are made in China.

joining the army

Making it over now?

Since we don't have a big shiny 747 to offer him, it wold have probably been, "keep paying us for our submarines.. think of it as bettering Qatar..."

Taking it over now

For your funny pics, Instascam should do.. I see a lot of them on there when I am on. Same for funny vids, I guess. And also, noticed more quickies ending up there, too, though you would prob have to screen shot them. Not sure about the brain teasers, though. Seems more mind-mumbing on Instascam to me.

$13... $1 for each letter of the name of the pie (ex spaces)

I was slow on the draw, but spacey's answer was not up when I started typing. For this, $11.

c as there is only 7 numbers

It is tenuous at best to suggest a causal link between the Vietnam war and everything changing at home. Apart from possibly addressing issues in the military, that period of time was already one of the most socially transformative times. From teh 50s in US and Europe, as a result of economic progression, the masses were availed educational opportunities previously reserved for the upper echolons of society. This came in the 70s for Aus by Whitkam abolishing university fees. Also, the leaps and bounds in media technology meant more people than nor had TV sets, radios and the like. Public libraries sprrang up. People were better educated and better informed, which led to more people demanding better or their vote would go to someone else. Ironically, the unpopularity (and the sad way the vets were treated) was probably a result of the rapiod rise of education and information. Flower power, human rights, etc, were all gaining speed long before the Vietnam war even started. I would argue the Vietnam was was coincidental to most of the change you talk about. As an example, I recall in the 70s sitting in th elounge room watchin ABC 4 Corners doing a piece on NSW police corruption and my mum saying something like lucky we livein Victoria - as if the police there were virtuous. But then news came out soem time later about bent Vic police, too.

Or both?

Now you're just trolling

Jeepers you spew a lot of poop.. ever thought media needs eyeballs to pay for advertising: https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/aus/australia/crime-rate-statistics In case you're hard of reading crime down significantly since 1990

OK.. I get what you say.. I am not sure hoe the first line of your response correlates to thee second line of your response? I don't see the causal link... We may have been nore or less of a threat to ourselves (and it is your assertion with lack of statement exactly what is the threat and any quantification).. .But they two are not related. We face simulataneous and unrelated threats all the time. We often deploy resources to multiple threats.

I am not sure I understand the correlation between corruption/organised crime and conscription, to be quite honest. One redeeming feature of Albos is he supports the Hawks...

Hi attack on democracy and accountability has been so brutal, and is being acquesced to, that it is doubtful the Democrats will persist beyond a token force, depending on how he deploys the national guard after the mid-terms.

Someone must have liked Bolte - he was Vics longest serving premier of 17 consecutibe years. Too early for me to form any opinion on the man, but it would seem performance has no correlation to political success, nor monuments - there is a bridge named after him in Melbourne in 1999. Ahh, that was under Jeff Kennet's watch.. No wonder. BTW, you know the quality of person I am by the people I hang out with. A mate of mine started dating John Cain's daughter, but he put a stop to that very quickly.. Can't have the riff raff in.

This deal means we pay and they don't have to deliver.. Chump will be fuming anyway as he has never had a deal that good.. seems Biden is a better deal maker for putting America first. UK is still not sure what it is or what they are there for

That's the rub.. the opposition, especially in Vic, seems to live in an alternate reality. We need a strong opposition that provides a credible alternative. They used to be. The reports this morning that Presutto has been thrown a $1m lifeline in staving off bankruptcy in settling his defamation loss.. but it would come with a condition that holds the Vic Libs to ransom by a property developer who would stump up the cash. That cannot end well.