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THAT  seemed to end the discussion, somewhat. Nev

I didn't write this stuff. I'm only quoting it. You are ALL sinners and going to hell unless you have faith in the Risen Christ.  and by that you will be saved. This implies the original concepts must have failed obviously. and plan "B" is now the go..When the "Gospel" (good news) is spread to the far corners of the earth we will be in the last days. Some think that TIME is NOW. 

 Personally I think making US in the image of god is an ultimate conceit, on our part and I can't see why god would have all the faults of design WE have IF HE was that smart.. More likely we invented him in OUR image because we are full of BS. Nev

Alcohol only preserves your bladder and kidneys AFTER you are DEAD .Nev

Conditions in Germany were beyond tolerable, Inflation being one of the obvious issues. Adolf had a big axe to grind with the French. Nev

Sugar should be a good fuel .The engines would surely run a lot sweeter and there's a surplus of it. Nev

Even today  either black or white  (and nothing in between) is how many look at things. It saves thinking which requires effort and getting out of your comfort zone. Nev

I think Trump referred to Charles as the Prince of  Whales, but he also said HE hasn't READ any books. Nev

Why did Germany go to war.? The assassination of  Ferdinand which today would hardly rate as much at all.  IT was just an excuse..Germany and England were locked in a battle of who's got the best whatever. That's why the Titanic didn't slow down. Hitler was arguably very mentally disturbed by his WW1 war experiences and the French "Reparations" didn't help as they were beyond reasonable. The Nazi Racial purity was adopted from the US KKK  dogma. Quite a bit of sympathy for Hitlers version of National Socialism   existed in America. Nev

"Calling Dr Spacey. Ben Spacey".Nev

ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god. So god sent Christ to atone for your sins.  isn't that what the new testament is about?   Nev

You're welcome Spacey. Sometimes there's no justice.. (MOST times). Music is good for the soul (whatever that is). Modern Kids are OK. WE don't help them much often forcing them to be what we wanted ourselves to be. I certainly didn't do that. NONE of them fly or wish to. Everyone has to chart their own Path..  For some reason what your father is/was like is important to offspring..   Nev

The question is not that it does no good but how bad it is. That goes for honest labelling Junk food  Short term loans and Gambling and cigarettes and easily available alcohol 24 hours a day. also robbing young kids of their proper wages. A good tribe would not do these things to it's younger members. It's Greed and couldn't care less. Look at kids meals at pubs Chicken nuggets and chips with tomato sauce. Some pensioners eat then too. Lollies at the checkout at the service station where the kid pops a tantrum and has to be shut up by getting some junk lolly to stick in his cake hole.  Nev

NOTHING is as simple as it first seems especially IF PEOPLE are involved. As an atheist I'm less governed by Dogma and more free to use what dog gave me, My brain, as everybody who slows down in the wet is doing when driving. Even WHEN I was a very conscientious Christian I found the commandments too simplistic to really amount to anything definitive as a lifestyle indicator.  There's plenty of absolute CRAP in the old testament to quote it and be serious at all. It is after all a period when the earth was flat and very little science (real knowledge) about. Whatever GODS you had explained basic things like the sun rising. Rain falling etc

   Saying the bible is the "Absolute  Word of God" has to be qualified and questioned.. Which words Which Part?  or perhaps NONE. All religions regard others as wrong basically so that's where the fight starts.  Never ending tension. 

 2,000 years ago is really just Yesterday, in the big scheme of things but man's COLLECTIVE knowledge has expanded exponentially. as it builds on the solid base already achieved, ideally.  Nev

The sun will expand to engulf the earth but that's a long time away. Most of the universe is a very hostile place with substances and temperatures we could not stand for a minute.  WE are OF this earth and must treat it respectfully. We are unlikely to find another adequate one let alone one better, or as good. Nev

It's not been my experience to find atheists devoid of morals. Some self righteous professing Christians are only looking after themselves in the alleged afterlife and behave abominably with their prejudices and greed.. ALL religions have non believers in their ranks. To declare it might mean their life . You are not really free to be a non believer in the Land of the free.. (but not really,)   the USA. . Compulsory "belief" is  a  conflict of concepts. an oxymoron..   Nev

The Major places were Newcastle and Port Kembla. for steel production. Ferro alloys were done in electric furnaces with giant carbon rods dipping in the metal. l know Lithgow made rifles. Nev

My father was working making ferroalloy steels at Newcastle.  ALL output used for the war effort.The first place to be bombed would have been where he worked.  Newcastle was bombed but only by armour piercing shells mainly to put the frights up civilians and demoralise the population. It was at the same time as the midget submarines went into Sydney Harbour. Nev

The more you know you realise how much more you need to know, IF that's a goal you set for yourself.  Nev

The STATE a Shire is in has a lot to do with the Council. It's usually somewhere between confusion and corruption. Nev

Sure Jerry.   Nev

It looks empty and mainly is because it's very barren rarely gets reliable rain and WE are stuffing it up MORE. WATER is more precious than just about anything else in this country.  There's hardly any river you can drink out of without boiling it Soil carbon is very low and topsoil blown away or washed away by rain erosion, because of how we control weed by discing etc. The artesian parts has been wrecked also. Try imagining how much land we have denuded of trees and caused salination ad caused higher ground temps..When I first started flying the Barrington area was all trees as was most of the country from Penrith to Cowra. Much of the vast wheat country of WA is hopelessly saline probably not recoverable. Didn't take long either in the big scheme of things. Nev

PMC, you are becoming more of a minority view as more real evidence comes to light. example Antarctic ICE and there's(unfortunately) plenty more evidence emerging.  Climate change opinion started from it didn't exist. The world is too large for "our" activity to affect it The Population of the Planet has tripled in my lifetime. Oceans ARE more acid Measured CO2 is going up. Lots of things ARE going as predicted in TREND. There's a lot of BIG money trying to convince people otherwise.. THEY are not working for OUR good  Or a desire to promote a greater truth. Nev

"Politics of Envy" as they present it is like victim blaming raped workers. Their policies are currently inflating house prices and making a recession later more likely Unsecured loans at very low Interest, Buy now and get  cash back.. ALL ridiculously stupid and opportunistic. They have folios with many houses in them. It's also putting all your eggs in the one basket. Never a good Investment idea. They also appear to be sabotaging super for many people. Nev

I DON'T believe BOTH are as bad as each other by a long shot. That's usually a Lib/Nats comment when THEY get caught/found out. Why? One side has a far more developed mantra around entitlement and money and WHO you know not what you know.Under them  the difference between the top 3% and the rest will grow and grow, because that is the small and getting smaller MOB they serve because they make it worth their while after Parliament as well as during it. The middle class is fast disappearing here and the USA. I don't believe in CLASS at all really, especially when it's based on how much wealth you have accumulated and gross conspicuous consumerism. Often the WAY it was done (getting wealthy) doesn't stand scrutiny. Greed is the term for it. God wants you to be greedy.? and piss on the  ones who have fallen on adverse times. Lifters and leaners and private Prisons prosper and people have to sleep in the streets and their cars. Others get food out of skip bins.  Nev

"Someone" will no doubt try to make it look that way. They are" coming for your UTE" plus Palmer and Porleen was enough. last time. Bowen didn't help.. Till more people take politics seriously THEY won't need to do the things the "PEOPLE" need. They FOOL you and please their "moneyed" Backers. Great business plan if YOU let them get away with it... Nev