She has gone.

[Jerry_Atrick]

If you could guarantee a benevolent, integral and peaceful dictatorship, life in theory would be very good. But, alas, it isn;t a sustainable feature of humanity. 

 

2 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Where the hell will the Greens direct their preferences, if not Labor?

Independents? Even if the independent was inconsistent with your ideology, the power they wield is limited. 

[facthunter]

When things get Politicised, Truth goes out the door. The Libs promises need COSTING. It has not been done and the greens pile on Labor to get the Low hanging fruit for their Own purposes.ie Getting a higher percentage.They Know they Can never govern in their own right, so can promise Knowing they won't have to deliver. Nev

[willedoo]

5 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Where the hell will the Greens direct their preferences, if not Labor?

In 15 seats they are directing on how to vote cards Greens 1, One Nation last and no preferences in between.

[willedoo]

 According to Tony Barry, historical preference flows show Green voters don't closely follow their how to vote cards. In past state and federal elections exhausted green votes have gone roughly 85% to Labor, 15% to the Coalition.

[Jerry_Atrick]

I read an article in The Age today of the unlikely PHON voters.. It was taken from Pakenham to Gippsland and based on who the journos interacted with. The Sri Lankan community look like they are very much in favour of PHON citing the need to get immigration under control and focus on importing skilled migrants. 

 

Of course, the mines and power stations winding down have had an impact. As usual, governments of all colours allow it to happen without necessary transition plans. Replacing whole industries with a few more public servants hasn't cut it. 

 

There were those who have also been struggling, and an ex union leader. 

 

Of course, it's not statistically valid enough to say what will happen, but as I sit at the airport and reflect, there does appear to be a groundswell of fundamental discontent with the state of play.

 

I bumped into an ex work colleague fro London, who is Australian and repatriated about 10 years go. He is in work but his concern is it may not last for long. His assertion is that as the latest wave ot IT immigrants are climbing the corporate ladder, they aseem to be favouring their own and not being too equal-opportunity focused. 

 

I would normally discount it as someone having a bit of a whinge because they are being overlooked for others better than them, but this bloke has worked for me and I know his capabilities. Assuming he was not lying, he described situations where consistently others far more competent were overlooked for those of similar backgrounds - that resulted in near disaster (in corporate terms of course, which mean screing something up but not ending the earth). 

 

Whether or not it is true, perceptions matter and sadly most of the electorate take perception over fact. And that weighs on peoples minds.

 

And the corruption - it seems mind boggling (on all three major sides).

 

[Brendan]

4 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

I read an article in The Age today of the unlikely PHON voters.. It was taken from Pakenham to Gippsland and based on who the journos interacted with. The Sri Lankan community look like they are very much in favour of PHON citing the need to get immigration under control and focus on importing skilled migrants. 

 

Of course, the mines and power stations winding down have had an impact. As usual, governments of all colours allow it to happen without necessary transition plans. Replacing whole industries with a few more public servants hasn't cut it. 

 

There were those who have also been struggling, and an ex union leader. 

 

Of course, it's not statistically valid enough to say what will happen, but as I sit at the airport and reflect, there does appear to be a groundswell of fundamental discontent with the state of play.

 

I bumped into an ex work colleague fro London, who is Australian and repatriated about 10 years go. He is in work but his concern is it may not last for long. His assertion is that as the latest wave ot IT immigrants are climbing the corporate ladder, they aseem to be favouring their own and not being too equal-opportunity focused. 

 

I would normally discount it as someone having a bit of a whinge because they are being overlooked for others better than them, but this bloke has worked for me and I know his capabilities. Assuming he was not lying, he described situations where consistently others far more competent were overlooked for those of similar backgrounds - that resulted in near disaster (in corporate terms of course, which mean screing something up but not ending the earth). 

 

Whether or not it is true, perceptions matter and sadly most of the electorate take perception over fact. And that weighs on peoples minds.

 

And the corruption - it seems mind boggling (on all three major sides).

 

the corruption is all jacinta allan and dan andrews in vic. union puppets.

the week before allan was thrown out she was trying to have the rates cap introduced by Andrews removed to gain support to keep her job. she was happy for all rate payers in victoria to get slugged more as long as it benefitted her.

i know i will cop abuse for saying that from the left. like that idiot telling me to leave the country.

every person i speak too is voting one nation and most of them used to vote labor as i did myself.

albo and chalmers plan to bring house prices down is working. my trucks deliver construction materials and our work has dried up. usually from september to christmas i can't keep up and we bring extra carriers in. this year i have trucks parked up. getting about 3 days a week and parked up by lunch time. there are going to be a lot of people hurting this christmas.

its ok if your on the big build or a public servant.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Brendan

[old man emu]

2 hours ago, Brendan said:

like that idiot telling me to leave the country.

FFS Brendan. That was meant as a joke. I've been trying for days to find a way to pour oil on the troubled waters between us, but I couldn't think of words that would be misconstrued as being offensive.

 

[Brendan]

16 minutes ago, old man emu said:

FFS Brendan. That was meant as a joke. I've been trying for days to find a way to pour oil on the troubled waters between us, but I couldn't think of words that would be misconstrued as being offensive.

 

fair enough. i will drop it .

i am still wary of comments directed at me after the one calling me a wife basher because i don't like labor.  

i have done my fair share of offending . i am trying to behave.

 

Edited 38 minutes ago by Brendan