Rat Bike Project

[Litespeed]

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Great Guzzi cali rig and a trailer.

Perfect for girlfriend and dogs or extra girlfriends 

[willedoo]

That Guzzi's quite a rig, would be good for a bit of comfortable cruising. From what I remember of the Guzzi's, they were always a comfortable bike to ride.

[willedoo]

A reasonable price as well considering the sidecar and leading link setup. You'd be hard pressed to find a second hand Ural outfit for that price. Looks like a Dusting sidecar.

Edited 18 hours ago by willedoo

[facthunter]

China made it's own version. They are all more or less derived from the BMW R-38  Even the USA made one to replace the Walla but the Mechanics didn't like working on it. They were "used to"  the WLA. Nev

[Litespeed]

Yes,

 

Great value and great looking setup.

The front end makes all the difference.

 

A huge step up from a Ural.

 

The Guzzi is a great tourer, comfy and handle well.

[willedoo]

I had an old Dusting in the early 70's. The plan was to bolt it to my 741 Indian but I ended up selling both before they were mated up. The sidecar was in good condition, good enough to bolt on and ride away. All it needed was a seat. I shudder when I think what I sold them both for. In today's money it would be the equivalent of $3,000.

[Litespeed]

I once had a Steib Zeppelin chair to put on a BMW but never had the time when my partner was sick.

 

The chair was beautiful.

 

Worth lots now.

[willedoo]

25 minutes ago, Litespeed said:

Yes,

 

Great value and great looking setup.

The front end makes all the difference.

 

A huge step up from a Ural.

 

The Guzzi is a great tourer, comfy and handle well.

You don't get the reverse gear or the 2WD of a Ural Gear Up, but a new Gear Up would set you back a minimum of $36,000 on the road. Considering the work done on the Guzzi, you could buy it and be $23,500 better off than buying a new Ural. I've been from just north of Brisbane to Cains and back, and Melbourne to Adelaide and back on a Guzzi and I was impressed with it's comfort and touring qualities. On my old Commando Fastback you'd get a sore arse and back just riding down to the shops.

[willedoo]

33 minutes ago, Litespeed said:

I once had a Steib Zeppelin chair to put on a BMW but never had the time when my partner was sick.

 

The chair was beautiful.

 

Worth lots now.

A 1958 model BMW. I can see where they get the Zeppelin name from.

 

[Litespeed]

Probably the best trad sidecar ever- absolutely beautiful.

 

Some make replicas but the reral deal is best, sadly worth a bomb.

 

The Guzzi are very comfy but having a Tonti frame- basically a LeMans frame but taller and slightly longer, means they are by far the best handling and braking cruiser. My twin bro had one and it really could eat corners. 

 

I would love the Guzzi Outfit but sadly no space or money.

[facthunter]

Riding an Outfit is much different to Riding  Solo and Many don't like it and don't do it well. There's also a bit involved in setting up the "chair  geometry"properly. Riding with Nothing in the chair is not advised. It also Imposes extra load on the frame Tyres and gearbox etc. and you have to alter the Gearing.The Motor will run hotter as well and it needs more Power to get along and up Hills. Braking and Power are non symmetrical . A downhill off camber turn to the Left requires caution. A bike that has a Low centre of gravity will handle better.  Lot's of suspension travel makes the whole thing "rubbery". It LEANS too much . A brake CAN be fitted to the sidecar wheel and you can have all 3 wheels interchangeable. A Parking brake is required and reverse gear helps if the thing is weighty. It could be electric as you don't go far OR fast. You CAN carry a lot more stuff and the Passenger(s) MAY stay dry .   They were Popular  at times when Cars were very expensive. Nev

[pmccarthy]

A member of our classic club swapped his solo for an outfit on a club run, with no sidecar experience. He and his son were killed.