Grumpy Old Nasho

Thanks for answering that onetrack, that's all I wished to know. I'd like to discuss the subject further, not in here, in a new thread perhaps, specific to conscription only, in the past and for the future. It's still on the books.

The speech was mainly about terrorism, and he made it some years ago, 2017 I think, but the content of that speech still applies to-day IMO, how could it not? And now that Trump is President again, things are moving along with the release of Israeli hostages. One Israeli is worth 50 Palestinians up there.

What was the reason again for Hamas murdering all those Israelis and grabbing all those hostages?

Everything about conscription was under duress, that's why it's called conscription. Penalties applied right from the time we received the call-up notice, to the last day of the two years - Great wasn't it? We had a Nazi jackboot Coalition Government. I have no recollection of swearing Allegiance or signing a paper, and more than 50% of ex-conscripts surveyed two years ago don't recollect either. I put the question to Nasho Fair Go, they did the survey. None of us should have signed ANY papers. To do so meant they could come back at us and say we "volunteered". We weren't to be treated any differently to regular recruits. If I signed a paper, it would have been only because I was sh!t scared as a twenty year old, completely naive and almost non verbal, just signing away, various papers that I knew nothing about. Did you read all the papers before signing them? Were you fully aware of a paper titled "Oath of Allegiance" and consciously knew what it was before signing it? If I signed, I and many others would have been tricked into signing it - that's what Nazis do. The whole thing was criminal. They'd never want to do it again, to younger generations, they'd get stabbed with kitchen knifes and get chopped up with machetes.

This is why Trump is good for the World.

Don't need it, the election is over. I predicted twice that Trump would win, 2016, and 2024. Months before I judged the mood of the voters, and wasn't surprised on both occasions. Were you surprised?

Crime rates are overshadowed by the willingness of perps to commit heinous crimes that parole boards turn a blind eye to and forgive, giving perps a chance to commit a second heinous crime. We've seen both major parties preside over this stupidity, the radical "humanist" ALP, and the "lefty copycat" Coalition.

Did you know that us conscripts that Menzies & Co called up weren't required to swear the Oath of Allegiance, when regular recruits were required. Question Trump's swearing in?, well there you go, we were assigned to be part of Her Majesty's armed forces, but technically, we were no more than Menzie's Mercenaries, or mercenaries for the Coalition government. It's not wise or prudent to throw stones at Trump, when the first stone should be banged on our heads.

I'm getting that help from you learned gentlemen, when you think crime and chaos resulting from ignominious "progressive humanist" policies is a good thing, I will think it's a bad thing, and say so. What's worse, is the refusal by citizens to admit there is normalization of all the problems causing the decay of Western societies.

I've no doubt they will, once the extremes are put to rest, both left and right. Then things can get back to normal, no unnecessary wars, law and order in it's true sense, only one interpretation of the Constitution, and proper control of the borders and immigration.

The full context of it in my post is my qualification for making the remark.

The point I've made already is that the pendulum swings one way, then swings the other way - left to right and vise versa. Far left politics will always be countered by far right politics, it's nature at work. Eventually there'll be an equilibrium of sorts in the US, with the pendulum swinging short distances rather than going off the scale at each end. After Trump's current stint, the Democrats will realize, if they haven't already, that Americans are mostly rejecting their careless far left "socialist" policies, and moderate themselves to listen more closely to the voices of concerned citizens.

Lucky you ... my local council charges me for sewage, and I don't even have sewage. I complained about it and they told me to get lost.

It's the intentional chaos in the interim that bothers me and millions of other people. Voters are waking up, and it's not before time.

It's the internationalization and socialization of Nations' politics, with the aim of creating a World Government which would "prevent" wars and feed the poverty stricken. Control our travel and carbon footprint.

After Trump has restored law and order, the pendulum can start swinging back towards the center with future administrations, creating stability once more, without the nonsense of radical leftwing extremist ideology, it's being shunned around the Western World, and so it should.

The radical lefties are/were a security threat. Just because they are not on a watch list, doesn't mean they are not a threat to the "well being" of the United States. Hence the election of someone at the other end of the political spectrum to bring the US back from the brink of the left's revolutionary socialism, and that's the direction it was heading in under the Democrats, Sanders, and to some extent, the Republican RINOs.

That's why the voters thought it wise to elect Trump, to tame the lefty radicals in Congress and the States. No one else could muster the intestinal fortitude to bring them to heel. It had to be done for the sake of law and order.

Whatever, Jerry You'll see it all here - "Thanks for making it happen" (the election win) - "My heart goes out to you, thank you"

RFK Jr? I know little about him. My fav Trump policies are: 1) Deportation of illegals. 2) Negotiating a halt to the Ukraine conflict. 3) Freeing the hostages from Hamas, and 4) Dissipating wokism and extreme political correctness.

BS Anyone on this forum knows that I have been an enthusiastic supporter of Tesla such that until recently I owned shares in his company. I still think he has achieved amazing things in the EV field and in the space industry but he is a right-wing crank. You must surely agree that the stills going around of democrat pollies are misleading. I have no opinion on what Musks gesture meant and I don't care. Perhaps just the weird behaviour of someone on Ketimine (that's not an allegation he admits it) When I say "lefties", I mean the neo far-left progressive humanists. They are totally off the chart compared to the lefties I knew years ago, whom I often joined with on issues I thought were important, relating to common sense workers rights and below par treatment by bosses. Personally I am neither far-left, nor far-right, and I'm sure you gentlemen aren't either. However, in the USA, a less than soft rightwing approach is needed presently, to extricate the general population from the Democrat's extremes, the extremes of pure neglect and misplaced tolerance.

Those Democrats pics themselves are not a good look for naive viewers seeing the pics for the first time, just the pics. Musk hit his chest before outstretching his arm. It was a "My heart goes out to you" gesture. It's pretty trivial anyway, it's just that the lefties were intent on rubbishing Elon Musk ... but it backfired on them, ha ha, better luck next time.

Any supply would be better than the one I have ... it's a normal 240V connection, but close to 300 outages since 2013. Each outage, whether long or very brief, requires electronic devices to be switched back on or re-set. Only about 20 of that 300 were notified outages for wire and pole maintenance, usually 8 hr duration. Many times I've lost my typed text on the computer, and had to start all over again. I keep a list of all outages to shove in a politicians face one day.

Good point .... it would be deemed justifiable possumcide

Yes, I researched before wanting to grab a big stick to hit it over the head. Not allowed to kill them, not that I'd do that anyway, yellow beak minor birds maybe, they came in and chased all the willy wag tails away that used to nest around my place, they were like pets, they loved hanging around my house and I watched their chicks grow into teenagers. I had to make it so the possum left voluntarily, according to the law, or trap it for re-location. I chose to make it very difficult for it to get shut eye in the ducting and leave of it's own accord. I was new to all this business, and the obstinate little critter was out-smarting me until I noting it's pattern of coming and going by listening for noises below the floor boards, then I set the trail camera to those times and viewed it's behaviour the next morning. Finally I made it so hard for entering the ducting, it gave up never to be seen again. Strangely, it never tried to scratch a second hole in one of the other lengths of ducting, there's three, going to different points under the house. I'm thankful it didn't.