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Oh, l was also paying rent on my little factory plus travelling up and back to my block 3x a wk plus forking out on materials and building l was doing on the place. Plus, l built a second business and ran the both up until last yr my whole working life.

Anywayyyyy, same same. None of this bsing on here does one damn thing. As l said a few pages back. Forget all your gripes and begrudging of whatever you think of the younger generations now and l actually agree on some of it with a good portion of them myself anyway. IT's about our useless pollies and them running our country into the dirt. And that's all in the numbers, easy peasy, they're a disgrace and they're destroyng what's left of us, simple as that.

lf they couldn't afford it then at the normal 3 and 4 x the average- there's that word again, oh no- how would they have been at 7-11x av wage. But eh, as per Reds last one, l rest my case. Many here are missing the points and have been out of the real world that s these days 20yrs. l bought my first place at 25. 37acs an hr out of Melb. Same time l was running a business l built myself at 23, plus paying rent on a unit in Melb . No way on this earth l could do any of that now at 25, not one hope in hell. That same block l bought back then is now 600k. Rents are 2000 a mth min and there's so much red tape and taxes and costs and regulations in starting and running any business now you could never do what l was doing back then at 23. Not one hope in hell.

Ohhhh crikey. Who givsaneff. So what, with all that fancy twisting and turning end of the day, you reckon what 7.5 to 10.5 - some stats say 8.5 to 11.5 x the "real" average wage to buy a house in your country,with whole generations and families missing out, is all good eh. Not to mention all the other stuff going down the toilet. l don't think too many people round here have younger kids or have ran businesses.

Yep, lets all get all technical on bullshit that doesn't even matter. Out of everything said and going on in your country, you two are all caught up on some bullshit term that means much the same thing anyway. 🤣

Median house price mean the average . But if you think your country and people having the security of their own home, and houses being built means and produces nothing, well, wouldn't even know where to begin. As for the rest, fully agree. All our Govs have been destroying it all for decades. No idea why .

How's Putin, now in China again, only a few days after Trump. How often we see this rubbish God they're like school kids some of these leaders. Xi must be lapping all this brown nosing up 😁

When housing is 71/2 to 101/2 the average wage when it's meant to be 3 and 4x av wage and a couple of our cities the most expensive in the world and we're still 1mil houses short but meanwhile let in over 2mil immigration and we have more homeless than ever in history and talking whole generations missing out on owning their own home ever , well ! Yeah there's other things too, like record by "double" in small business going under, 1000s of our brightest minds leaving the country yrly or 70,000 builders just in the last 12mths going under, but you know, you'd have to be one selfish self-centred zero sighted AH not to be v v v concerned about our housing and people.

Not to mention Howard, sneakiest lying little bastard ever.

Trouble is, it's far more than that. The numbers on just about everything after what 4yrs of this one, , tell it all.

@pmccarthy , My God, that is one helluva lot of money and for what, what a disgrace. Media should be all over this stuff.

l reckon if Angus wants a real shot he better back right off on their shutting down the net zero thing. How could they not realize that after Duttons disaster.

Heard something on a clip the other day with one of our leading economists talking about Labor destroying business, which they have been exactly what l've been saying buttt. He then said the Gov wants to own Australians again and that's one reason they are destroying business. Any idea at all what he meant by that, owning us again? Did he mean they want everything Gov owned or us all working for the Gov or wth ? Prob a long shot question without the full vid, sorry should've saved it.

l reckon there's racism going on in Trumps Obama thing too and his mate Putin didn't like him either. Putin literally smirked when he first met Obama and wouldn't even look at him, saw the clip. But funny, saw a clip of Obama from just over the wkend seems as Trump was ranting again. Obama chuckles and says, yeah, think l trigger him 🤣 He said it with such a couldn't giva fk it was just a classic.

The class of Xi was written all over him, played Trump like a fiddle. lmagine how the classless buffoon himself and the shytshow he's created atm, the state of the US bc of him and not to mention the world to actually, looks to a man like Xi

Yeah think she's about as bright as Albo n sidekick that one. Fancy putting rates up right now and they reckon 2mre to come. We have the second highest debt to wage in the world, 2nd highest housing and montages,l think 2nd in costs of living too, now fuel and through to everything else from that plus more rate rises. Think a lot of people round here have had their houses 30-40yrs, have no teen kids, early 20s, and nothing to worry about.

Urr, scuse typos 😉

Yeppa, that'd be a very short one. For some reason and they've been playing it for decades but Ausstralia and some of our pollies think Australia is someone special and different to all the others and it deserves it's hand held and special treatment. As if Chump gives too fks.

Contradicting it all right there mate. That's all why we don't need another 21/2 mill in migration. What do you THINK, that's done to all those other troubles. But anywayyyy, whatever. As l said somewhere, just look at the massive improvement in Canada's situation, go on go study that and others too, since they cut immigration. And as l said before to, then just look at troubles countries all over the world are having, us included , bc of mass immigration. You don't have to argue away here does nothing mate- zilch, that's why l don't waste my time on it. Go look at the facts, it's "very" simple stuff man.

Even if you just if you completely skip the rest, forget it all, and just think housing. That one huge thing alone SCREAMS, stop effg immigration. Not rocket science .

Haaa was it ever. Only trouble is for such a gun mad bloody country as l say still none of them for some weird reason can hit the broad side of a house anyway, boggles the mind. Let alone a big old overweight fart like Chump. Also boggles the mind that someone like the man /person, Chump is, is somehow still kicken n place like the US, yet innocent and good people cop it everyday.

Don't even watchem. There are professors and experts, economists, of all kinds warning about it as we speak. lt's common sense though mate not rocket science, gave a lot of my reasons already you don't even need to hear it from anyone no matter who they are it's a no brainer. But alas, no use coming back to you or anyone about anything Marty, doesn't matter what you think or me either, carrying on in forums doesn't change one damn thing. Wish it did.

Yeah right, be great if they could find some way of doing something with them.

And sadly the wildlife , which we seem hell bent of wiping out too.

Earlier in l didn't mind wind farms. But through Vic now, west side anyway, they're all over the place and still popping up. lt's not a practical solution bc 1, sounds like they'll need a lot more than this to make much of a dent at all but there's already too many. 2nd thing l've read, is that the props blades only have a 10-15yr life, then what do you do with those. The US already has 1000s of acs of old props stacked up, saw pics. Far as l know there's not really anything they can be recycled into .