octave

2 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

But your wit is acute.

My mother has acute angina, but let's not go there! 

You know the first time I saw this I assumed it was satire.

1 hour ago, red750 said:

I have nothing against electric vehicles and if I won Ozlotto, I would think about buying one. My daughter definitely wants one. As I only drive on average 50 kms a fortnnight, it doesn't really matter. But as things stand now, unless there was one for less than $5,000, it's out of the question. I will not borrow to buy anything, and as a pensioner, getting even a small loan is virtually out of the question. Mention the word pension, and they all say "Sorry." I only needed to borrow $2,000 to buy my Festiva less than 12 months ago, I had the rest, and I had to borrow from my daughter as I got rejected for every loan I applied for. I have paid her back long ago. Now, if I can't pay cash, I go without.

 

My credit rating is actually going down as I don't have a loan portfolio. I have a credit card with a very small limit, and it is in credit a couple of dollars. I've had it for more than 15 years, and keep it basically to use at parking pay stations which only accept credit cards. If I cancel it, they would not issue another.  

Yes, I am in a similar position however I do celebrate those early adopters who are in a position to push into the new technologies,  In earlier days I pushed into early computers and the internet.  The new technologies are exciting. I look forward to the time when I will be able to get into EVs 

1 minute ago, Litespeed said:

My health's shot, I am poor...

 

But I live on a boat and do what I want.

 

Cheers 

 you ate wealthy

3 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

Here is one example. https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
the National Snow and Ice Data Centre shows extent of arctic sea ice. Situation normal, no alarming trend. Click on any year to compare. 
 

there is plenty of information out there contrary to the alarmist headlines.

Is CSIRO wrong?

2 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

I'm sorry Octave, but your list is meaningless. A majority have no standing in climate science and some have no standing at all. Pakistan and Zimbabwe are not centres of scientific learning. Most of the web pages on the links are marketing pages for consulting services. Others presuppose imminent global warming and are addressing solutions, not assessing the scientific evidence  for climate change. Follow the money.

Are you saying that the majority of scientists believe climate change to be fiction?  Please supply evidence. Look I could be wrong so I am happy to go to the CSIRO sight and recheck my assumptions. OK, so I did that  https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change/climate-change-qa/science Sp tell me why you think CSIRO is shit?>

6 minutes ago, red750 said:

Tesla have ceased delivering Telsa 3 models immediately as they fail the safety regulations. They don't have child seat anchor points. 

January 17: 2024 Tesla Model 3 deliveries paused in Australia due to breach of motor-vehicle regulations

Yep, this is in Australia and it is temporary until a solution is found. Look I have hard-earned money invested in Tesla shares. Sorry but most of you crusty old conservatives who as so afraid of change are usually wholly or partly wrong. I a  more than happy to discuss details. I know change is frightening but like it or not is is going to happen.,   

1 minute ago, red750 said:

Just reporting tonight's news. Seeing you have fully investigated and researched every subject we discuss, and have certified proof, why don't you ru the news services.

What does "ru" the news services mean, just asking for a friend

Just now, red750 said:

Tesla have ceased delivering Telsa 3 models immediately as they fail the safety regulations. They don't have child seat anchor points. 

Bullshit. As a sharer holder, I am closing following every minute detail Yes there is an issue but you are either misled or misrepresenting the situation. If you have information that I don't then please post links. 

10 minutes ago, old man emu said:

Take note that the application in this matter was made by one Simon Munkara, an Elder of a Tiwi Island clan. Does anyone know if Mr Munkara is so well educated and versed in Western law and civil litigation procedure that he could really have instigated thi application from his own learning and experience?

I do not know what to make of this post. You are suggesting that this person is not qualified????  I don't know the answer to that but surely there is an answer and it, maybe discernable by an internet search.  the fact that he is aboriginal is immaterial to most fair-minded people.  You have asked the question whether Simon  Munkura is qualified or not. I feel that you think that you can float the suggestion that he is not, fine but present evidence 

2 minutes ago, old man emu said:

Thank you for the list of reputable organisations involved in climate studies. I accept that they are "horses for courses" in the area of climatology. But I ask you to come back to the current topic which tries to deal with the manipulation of, one might say, the naive (not missing the t in this case) to fulfil a goal of the cunning.

I can't have an opinion on whether environmentalists have used indigenous people to make a case against the pipeline. What I am saying is that anything that reduces our carbon emissions is good, isn't it? The established science says we need to reduce our carbon emissions, don't we?  If I am wrong about the established science then please provide links that prove otherwise.

21 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

Do you mean ' we ' will need to identify people,  with date's, etc.

POOR SHOW .

spacesailor

I might be a bit thick but I have no idea what this means. as P Hansen said, please explain.

Just now, spacesailor said:

One ' straight out of university ' manager was stopped ladder climbing,  by the ' worked his way- up ' manager. 

Because that manager couldn't get any higher,  without the 

Educational diploma. 

So

The old fella was shipped to the US , were he studied hard .to get the credentials, 

On his return to his old haunt,  he fired the young manager for incompetence.  Were all the worker's applauded him .

spacesailor

Sorry, but I have started to consider people who post things without supporting evidence as losers. Happy to consider all evidence, just post something to say that this is not just a thought bubble 

1 minute ago, pmccarthy said:

I'm sorry Octave, but your list is meaningless. A majority have no standing in climate science and some have no standing at all. Pakistan and Zimbabwe are not centres of scientific learning. Most of the web pages on the links are marketing pages for consulting services. Others presuppose imminent global warming and are addressing solutions, not assessing the scientific evidence  for climate change. Follow the money.

Well then present to me peer-reviewed evidence 

8 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

octave

It is a ' proven fact ' of history,  that the cold ( Snowball ) Earth. 

Was , warm  before the meteor strike. 

This " warming " is an adjustment to the Earth that existed before mankind .

And will be here After mankind .

spacesailor

I am happy to read any link to any reputable study.  

19 minutes ago, old man emu said:

That's not sensible. I'm not a fan of Bolt, nor ky New, but it's sometimes a case of "know thine enemy". You can't debate someone's ideas if you have nver heard them.

I would argue about whether it is sensible or not.  On this forum, I tend to make decisions about what I am willing to debate based on the evidence I know or on the information I am willing to research.  I think I am on pretty safe ground suggesting that Bolt and Sky News have a particular agenda. I don't think many people here would dispute that. Of course, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  If environmentalists have exploited indigenous culture to stop an environmentally bad project then that is fine with me.

I would agree that knowing your enemy is useful. Climate change deniers ought to be reading peer-reviewed studies by reputable organizations such as 

This video is very informative.  It is great to see facts rather than hysterical nonsense. The small time difference would not be a deterrent to me.  If time is the issue we should remember that the internal combustion engine is near the end of its development. There can not be much more efficiency to be squeezed out of it. By contrast, the EV is much less mature.   There is so much more potential yet to be realized.  The 1000-mile battery, sodium batteries solid state batteries are all on the way. 

2 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Fortunately for the EV owners who have run out of juice, the RAC is on call to juice you up! - with a fresh load of electrons! 

 

Nothing new really. NRMA and RACV etc. have always carried around a jerry can of fuel for the many cars that run out of petrol. 

Basic roadside assistance for zipping around town

21 minutes ago, red750 said:

I don't know where those photos were taken, octave, but whenever I've driven on a road with cycle lanes, there have been kilometres with no bikes in the lane, and delivery vehicles having dificulty finding a spot to unload.

The Netherlands.  They a much smarter at designing for everyone.   I know people who don't use bike lanes tend to have a hatred of them but when done well it benefits everyone.    

9 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

Mobility Scooter's Are ' not ' legal on the road .

This is precisely why we need fewer vehicle lanes and more space for bikes mobility scooters and pedestrians like in some European cities. Mobility scooters should not have to be used the road.  

5 hours ago, octave said:

I am all for sharing the street space more equitably, between cars pedestrians bikes, and mobility scooters. It is good for people and it is good for business when done well. 

By this, I do mean reducing the area for cars in favour of pedestrians, bikes mobility scooters etc.