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There are a few quadcopters out that already have this technology, they have certainly come a long way in the last few years. Also I saw an add for a phone holder that does the same thing only the person doesn't have to hold a tracking device it worked of optical tracking. Maybe there would be a market for a petrol powered version or even better a hybrid petrol/electric that could get along at racecar speeds:thumb up: Think of a lead camera for the likes of a v8 or formula one race:thumb up: Now that would be a cool perspective. (Small turbines are getting around a bit more now too:wink:)

Actually Phil that pic is from 'Croc Sounds Station' in the territory. They have trained their crocs to play a didgeridoo sort of instrument (hence the pipe and the name of the station) apparently they are half way through teaching them our national anthem. They are trying to keep it a bit quiet until they perfect it but I'm sure there would be a video on YouTube out there somewhere. They do tours but they cost an arm and a leg (literally) but from what I hear it is well worth it. Rumour has it one fella went twice and says he will give his left nut for his next visit.

Would have loved to see a video on that crock and chopper:thumb up:

I thought he was saying 'we would all be better off if we went for a fly and stopped arguing' Hmmm the joys of interpretation

We are getting into some pretty scary political problems here. Do we invade these countries to stop that behaviour? We could get some oil while we were there..... How much do people lose respect for America when they try to be the 'world police'? At what point do we stop respecting a countries sovereign rights? We have a lot of different cultures around the world and if we start forcing people to our way of thinking what will that really get us? We will end up looking like nazi germany. Not a good outcome.. There is certainly a place for boycotting countries that do the likes of what is mentioned with this lady. However with these two in Bali what they did is also seen as wrong here it is only the punishment that we disagree (generally) with. We don't have the death penalty here because most believe it to be an unsuitable punishment, but having said that how far the other way has our legal system gone? I know talking to police they get so frustrated locking up the same people for doing the same things (drugs, thefts ect) and then having the courts let them out so it can happen over and over. It is hard to find a balance, the police would like more power to lock people up with less evidence but how much would that affect innocent people? It is a huge balancing act, I believe the principles of our system are right 'innocent until proven guilty' but once guilt is proven I think our system is lacking.

Diesel is another kettle of fish altogether.... I love my diesel. Dad has a late model pajero and was getting around 9l per hundred which I though was good but then he put a 'Tunit' chip in it and went down to 8l per hundred with loads more power, I was very impressed with that. We have a landcruiser which was sitting on 12.5l per hundred and after seeing dad's figures I got a chip as well and now I can get 10l per hundred. I'm not sure how much they would save on the likes of an i30, I guess if it was only half a litre per hundred they might not be worth it but for us they will pay for themselves in no time. I'm very impressed with my cousins i30 and if we ever upgrade our small car they would be my pick.

When we first got our commodore I did a few tanks of each 91 95 and 98 (e85 wasn't available out here and still is hard to source) and found that the better economy I got out of 98 well and truly paid for the difference in price per litre, our local servo for a long time only had 95 which was still better value per 100ks than 91 and as it turns out probably better for it than even 98. I realise different cars will have different rates but that is how it worked out for me.

Just another point which may be minor, a lot of people are saying the death penalty isn't a deterant (spelling?) and that may be so but what effect would it have had if Indonesia had let these fellas off? Wouldn't that create an image of impotency of the law? So maybe while not being a positive thing not going ahead with it could have been a big negative and given would be traffickers the idea that even if they are caught things won't be too bad?

Sorry Marty I stopped reading when I saw you say 'legalise everything' While we mightn't have everything in perspective we still need some things to be illegal. I certainly wouldn't be happy to have 'ice' and 'heroin' and all the rest of them legalised. It doesn't matter how legal you make it it all still fries your brains and no amount of counselling at the selling point would fix it. I'm with Bex, I have a sibling and her partner addicted to weed and ice and no matter how much support and help they are given they still go back and go to great lengths to get their next fix and the worst part is the attitude that the world owes them everything, they don't want a job as it takes away from their high time and between the dole and selling the odd item they have enough to get by (high) I don't agree with killing people as punishment but that is the law in Indonesia and the way the media has carried on IMHO is disgraceful. Indonesia has as much right to do what they have done as we do locking up foreigners for crimes committed while here. Yes it would have been nice to let them spend the rest of their lives in jail instead of shooting them but the way that we (Australia and australian media) have been carrying on I'd be surprised if they just didn't get sick of our whingeing and shoot them to shut us up.

"Excuses are patches on the garment of failure" Sorry Daz couldn't resist. Incidentally that is often my Dads reply to my excuses:wink:

:roflmao:Nearly wet myself reading that Kaz. You aren't related to Phil P by any chance are you? Seems his influence is spreading through the forum:blush:

Well for what it's worth I'll try to express some of my thoughts in print without meaning to offend. Trust...... I don't trust many people at all no matter what their hair or skin colour is, at least until they have earned it. As far as percentages go indigenous/aboriginal people are overly represented in our prison populations. But why? Is it because they are worse people? I DON'T think so. I personally think it has to do with wealth, IMHO there seems to be not many indigenous people who are wealthy or have come from wealthy backgrounds which I think has a huge bearing on the outcomes. After all with white people don't we find that those from a lower socioeconomic background make up a larger percentage of inmates? It's just that 'white' people have more people that are better off (on the money side of things) to even out the stats. As far as the original vid goes, it was a nice video with a good aim but personally I don't think you will change the perspective of the majority until the indigenous population gets to a similar percentage of rich v poor as the non indigenous people. Because until then they will still have the same problems that beset any person in a lower socioeconomic group and will be judged on the actions of a few. (I say a few because I don't believe that the majority of indigenous people are out to steal your stuff and do bad things but when one does do things like that we tar the whole lot with the one brush) It said at the end of the video that only 13% of those asked said they trusted aboriginal or Torres Strait islander people. To me that is like asking if we trust Victorians or Americans or New Zealanders. I don't know how I would answer that question as I have had both good and bad experiences with them (indigenous Aussies) do I answer yes I trust them because of the good experiences or no because of the bad???? It goes back to my original point, trust isn't something that is given out willy nilly but is earnt (red line under earnt, is that even a word?) gradually. Only a fool would trust someone totally at their first meeting and only a fool would trust a whole group or country or race of people without exception!

Wirkd? Daz:amazon:

The tether would present a hazard in its own right if it was high enough, they were doing a balloon Internet test in Australia a little while ago (thought there was a vid on here somewhere about it?) I wonder how high they need to be to be useful?

I wonder if once the car industry heads overseas if the ACT will go into recession after all there won't be any need for them to produce dipsticks anymore......... Although maybe there will be some export opportunities

Most 'genuine' people (the people who actually do need it) hate getting on it, but there are too many that don't need it that love being on it. And FH that fine tooth comb seems to be slipped through quiet easily. But what do we do to stop it? Any move to make them jump through more hoops just makes it harder for the people with a real need for it. Maybe we need to bring in a dob in a scammer week or something similar but it all costs money to sort out.

And if they can have their partner on a carers pension it is even more so. I in no way want to take away from people who genuinely need this support and a genuine carer is one of our countries most undervalued asset. But when these others are as healthy as me (except when under the influence of drugs) and are able to buy as many toys for their children as I can and get to spend all day with them while I am out working it frustrates me no end, add to this the attitude that the world owes them all of that and more and it's a worry. Just to reiterate, I think that people with true disabilities (physical or mental) and their carers should be supported better than they already are BUT those who are along for the free ride, at not only our expense but at the expense of the real disabled community, frustrate me. The trouble is you can't weed them out without bringing further pain on the others...

Dead right nev. I agree with Teck but we can't punish those that truly need the support. You will often find the ones most disappointed with bludgers are the ones who genuinely could be getting the benefit but instead go out of their way to find employment. It is disheartening though to see the system being rorted but where do you draw the line? Personally I have always wondered why a mandatory form of national service wasn't brought in for those who have been on unemployment benefits for an extended length of time, it wouldn't have to be on the frontline of the armed forces but surely there would be a way of utilising them in support positions? Further to that I wonder how a optional 2 year national service would be accepted by those forced to stay in school till year 12 if they haven't got a job? Going on to year 12 for some of us is a waste of time (not meaning to cause offence, I personally got out after yr10 to work at home) and maybe the option of a two year stint in the defence force would be accepted by some?

I do like the idea of all licences in one place. Why not think along the lines of an app? I mean the banks have basically got on that bandwagon, I got a pay pass sticker that sticks on the back of my phone it is about 3cms by 2cms and less than half a mil thick and it lets me use my phone as a bank card at most eftpos machines. Surely an electronic tag could be built similar and relevant departments eg police would have a simple reader? We would have to nationalise our drivers licences though to make any of it work.

I've heard on good authority that you can still buy XXX online:naughty:

Deb is that you?

It depends on the distances travelled too, when wife and I were at hillston we were clocking up 3000 Ks per week on average but back up at Quirindi it's a lot less. So someone in Melbourne wouldn't on average burn as much as someone in the territory.

Maybe A visit to a pet shop if you aren't too far from one, they are generally happy to give advice. Friends of ours recently had a fungal problem in their little tank which caused the fish to discolour and loose condition on their fins, easily fixed with a quick treatment. If all else fails there is always lemon juice and tartare:happy:

Absolutely loved the first paragraph OME:roflmao: But back to analogies, if you live in town and your business is in town there is nothing stopping you claiming for business related expenses eg deliveries, pickups ect. Maybe you can't claim travel to and from work but you can always do what us 'lucky' farmers do and just live at work:ecstatic:. Anyway don't want to start arguments it's just I'm a typical farmer and (want to have a whinge) don't want people to think of us as too lucky or we might get crowded out:wink:

Having said that I would be ok with having a voluntary bike rego. I think if it was offered as a voluntary thing priced fairly with maybe a small number plate with a camera in it that it would be taken up by a fair amount of cyclists. I think the camera in the number plate would be a good move as otherwise the biker is giving up their anonymity without a promise of car drivers being responsible also. If the number plate cams became more widespread maybe we would see road users becoming a little More considerate to each other. I don't think a compulsory rego system would be a good idea as it would sort of spoil it for under age riders and have other negative impacts. I do think that unregistered bike riders should still be able to be fined for not wearing a helmet. it is ridiculous the amount of people that ride without a helmet!