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Bloody dear now Nev , all through from Geelong up , madness. So your comin back Jerry eh ? Couldn't even imagine being in another country so long and thinking about home like that , total brain fk. Can l ask , what are you doing in the UK anyway ? Not that there's anything wrong with it just wondering. Had a mate in Barcelona wants to come home, was really surprised would've been one of my picks if l was moving os.

Yeah l like vic too Nev, and have lived interstate. Don't wanna be too specific here Jerry but in from the coast sth west vic, out here enough for me that's all that matters. Jesus you can probably hardly remember anywhere anyway could you , uk and all how long ? How long since you've spent any time back here anyway btw ?

Yeah right , your closer to much more stuff and Melb so l can see that'd be fine. And so your married or something to eh? That'd make all the difference here and really help if you both liked it. l'm 3hrs Melb here and l'm single now though to so yeah she's pretty out there alone , for me anyway but some would love it that way though. Don't worry, been wondering myself if l should just make the most of it and maybe in time l make some sort of life here. That'd be easiest and def' best financially that's for sure. Pretty well why l've been staying here now, testing it out but so far it's just been bloody depressing for me, which is just not healthy and no way to live. As l say though to , realizing as well the trip up to the main town which is the only one worth going to, it's ok for now but yeah, few yrs time or as you got older ? Your not gonna wanna go all that way every 5mins and l'd just like to be closer to towns like that. Not only the driving but just nicer living having stuff around you and handy but with some life going on about to and things to do. Totally different life to out here.

Yeah for sure , me to in the past, this one has great lifestyle if you don't mind being out here . lt's about as l say 50k to a really decent town,very nice, and beach and it is a fairly easy drive l can say that much. There's another smaller town about 30k over, good bakery and small supermarket, few other things. And on the other side about 20k over another even smaller town but that does have a few things , basics, to. Thanks for the suggestions, appreciated.

Gday Jerry. Mate, it's a lovely property and on a beautiful little side street and at night the air from the grasses and trees, landscape, literally smells sugary,kinda fruity, so nice. But, it's 50k to a decent town and this town's tiny, only has a pub and l reckon that'll even close to soon. No shops, nothin. Prob only about 300 people , there's just nothin here or anything else closer.

Yeah Nev, do think about the old grass is greener. End of the day though, like came home from the main town here the other day and thought yeah it's nice right now getting up there, great getting out and running about. But by the time you run around up there to, on top of the trip there and back, it's about 130k. l'm getting a bit sick of it now so l think how will l feel after 5yrs of it , no thx. So even aside from the property situation itself there's still all that side of it to and l know l'd be sick to death of it in a few yrs soooo , can't see another way apart from a limo and chauffeur.

Yeah, might be a combo better than where this place is, other trade offs l might not mind, who knows l guess. ldk, wanna figure something out though , we see. Not being in that greater position just don't wanna jump out of a pan and into a worse spot, yaknow

Yeah for sure , this place would only be a big deposit, but if they were interested , right place, price, l'd prob only need another 100k give or take. Prob less than renting as someone here said , but it'd be mine. We see, that ones a longgggg shot in this climate.

Thanks very much for the replies and thoughts fellas, very appreciated. l didn't get any notices there was replies sorry, l've prob got somem turned off. Selling wise well, there's been so much interest it's blown us away- RE and l butttt, no one's bought yet. Few are thinking and looking at finance wouldn't hold breath though but it amazes me out of all the inquiries, still have it. What can you do though , most are tyre kickers really. But yeah, agree facth, l suppose l would rather own bc of things like that and other things everyone's mentioned. l'd def need to borrow though even if this does sell , if it didn't l don't even know if l could get finance let alone afford something else separately on top of still owning this one. Something like Jerry's idea would be the only other way in if l could find the right property and seller but man, prices are so insane atm , this fool of a gov has completely stuff housing in this country now, it's just hard to believe, mind boggling , the prices out there now and shortage. My old town for example only 5-6yrs ago had 20pages of property nowwww- it has half of 1 page. Anddd, what there is is 300% on prices there only 7-8yrs ago. My main town here now, lovely town, does have a few blocks alone still affordable for me but l couldn't build on it too on top of the land buy, it'd be too much, l'd have a full blown mortgage again. like l could build here cash bc l want one of those off grid and alternative style places, got one here now at the cabin. But trouble is the main town is a small city and the council regs wouldn't let me build what l want and could afford. Still though, if this one sold, possibly wangle something. l have decided this place has to go though, l just don't wanna stay here. And if it doesn't go, then l still have to go bc l just don't wanna be here it's not changing l'm more depressed non-stop just from being here and stuck the more time goes on. l've got one idea 1st step , that won't cost much and isn't much work , but l'm thinking of doing a few extras to the place that should make it much more tempting to buyers and hopefully get the thing sold. lf it did well that'd be a big start. But l reckon to meantime, might keep scanning property and keep an eye open for something l like and a possible swap like your idea Jerry, or deal of some kind, might get me into it never know. ln the past like your uncle for sure but the way it is here now, well, see what happens.

Did it really, my God didn't know that, what a tragedy.

Back onto this one if anyone feels like adding some thoughts. Bit of a problem though, a few. First thing is l'm still not liking it at the cabin ,mind you sometimes l do especially the block itself but the town just depresses me. Just not a nice way to feel especially as l wanna retire, was hoping for a bit better spot than this for crying out loud. On the upside, l could build on it was savings, it wouldn't be big and grand don't want that anyway, just say double the size of the cabin as is now. Trouble is, that is a great option as l can live here scott free, rates are tiny and l have solar and own water, could do what l want. But the town !!!!! Second problem is, l've had it up for sale a few mths, hasn't sold. Don't understand so many inquiries but it's not looking too good . l couldn't get in the door of something else now anyway unless l could sell this. l mean that's what l'd prefer and whoever it was said better of paying abit of a mortgage than rent yeah, damn good point. l'd need to sell the cabin though and it ain't looking good. Bloody hell, dk wth to do with the situation apart from go rent something or stay here and do my little build, looks like that's about the choices.

Well, don't really wanna rehash this ugliness but apparently in Perth, cops are now carrying assault rifles . Exactly what l said they have to do except l toned in down and said just keep one in the cop car and as they usually work in pairs make one of them a well trained marksmen. Perth's gone one further literally walking round carrying rifles. God almighty, what have we become ? Not saying l wanted any of it, l hate it with a passion and l hate what they've done to our once peaceful safe country. Dunno if this is going on in any of the other capitals, a friend in WA just told me about there though and she's so upset about it.

Yep , twas the most sickening sight tell you what, But hell yeah, the old Putin still ran rings around him.

Yep very much the same. lf l wanted T in a woman l'd be gay, turns me right off. Mind you , if she one of these types that still embraces her femininity like say Meloni , but there are others, now they on the other hand well, if they played their cards right they could have me ha ha, they have the opposite effect on me. Mind you, Meloni can be a little tyrant to l know.

Well , aside from all this stuff separately , l can not believe Trump still can't bring himself to say anything bad about Putin. Not enough he has his US soldiers on their knees rolling out red carpet for him, while Trump himself waits clasping hands smile from ear to ear bursting like a little school girl as Putin approaches - he still , 12mths after all his Ukr bs, insists in every presser, every time, that it's mostly soldiers being killed , innnnn, Putins defense. You watch any clip over 12mths of Trump talking about the lives lost in the Ukr war and he goes out of his way to add that, in every one. Andddd, to this day he's still adding it. Bloody gobsmacked . Still won't acknowledge, even still defending that his man crush doesn't go after civilians. Why are they all so silent with his bs and lies, over and over and over again. lt amazes me. Although he'll shutem down l know , if they mention or argue or ask something he doesn't like and it'll be no more questions from them but still. As for all this latest crap , notice they're all microscopic tiny countries or else countries he knows damn well couldn't even fight them back. He's actually doing, exactly what Putins been doing for decades. Just wrapping it up in different dressing. l reckon this idiot will be chaos start to finish, just like he's first term, he's even worse this time so far.

Yeah thx for that . Problem is it's pretty hard picking and choosing much over here atm tell you what, prices are insane and there's very little if any at an affordable price let alone it be something l'd want. Saw one l know of now but once again it'd be a reno job and it's on an ac , it is on the edge of a great little town though and only 25mins to the main town. That place is a great but great spot to and great price bc it needs the work but l just couldn't be bothered with yet another big place and a reno at that.l'd still need to borrow a bit. Didn't really want another mortgage either but l spose you have a big point there to in that it would only mean same as paying a rent anyway l guess and probably less at that, plus no one can kick you out yeah, bloody big points. Something l'll have to think about. Your area sounds lovely .

Gees man, light yrs away wow eh, but you remember that. Lot of money actually back then though. Such a different world now eh.

Uk eh , always thought it one of my fav countries or even the fav' but hear it's gone down hill lately , God knows. But yeah thanks for the thoughts, bloody depressed where l am would be more like it. l've only been here 2mths though and will be for a few more at least l'd say but hoping something nice comes of it or l even start liking it. The property is gorgeous, street too. Really nice to come home to but once your back a few days town itself starts getting to me again so not really expecting much. l'll give it a bit more time though and no choice right now anyway so shall see how things go. Yeah have heard about those bloody body corp things. That's why l thought of just renting, found one l liked and could afford to buy, need to borrow a bit but the bloody body corp costs were 16k a yr, l mean just wtf ? So looked at a few others and they were anything from 5-6k to even 20k, they can shove that.

So your not in Oz now Jerry or ? Nice to hear you'd like to come back though if not anyway. But nah , all that was back with ex w , and on borrowed money to so we never came out with much after breaking up, don't ask just how it was. l only have this one 1/2 hect' place now,since l got rid of my house but l don't like the town at all here. Lovely property and l could even build on this as the property itself is so damn nice though but so far to a good town though, 50k, 20 and 30k to smaller shit ones. This town where the property is only has a pub. Seems l'm here now l could do that but thinking l couldn't be stuffed getting a whole nother place though and building on that.

Gday all. As int he title yeah , thinking about just renting instead. Thing is, ex w and l had huge properties and always reno's at that , l was sort of obsessed earlier in with property and the small acreage lifestyle but l think l wore that out and def' over did it. l also rented out my little country cabin 15 yrs too but now l just want that gone as well if l can sell it bc renting it out has just been a constant stressor anyway and these days l'm just sick of property, full stop. l was seeing someone for awhile back though and she just rented a unit so we'd either stay at hers or mine. Thing was , staying at hers, l mean l'm use to small acreage and lots of outside- and all the work our places always needed so l was expecting her place to be torture but l got a real surprise. lt was damn nice staying at there, really damn nice. After all the crap l'm use to with houses and properties it was just so nice to just be able to live and relax and just do what you want for once. Longest we spent at hers was usually about 2mth stints a time so l don't have yrs of it to go by but really begun loving whatever time we did spend at hers. l'm at cross roads atm. Got rid of my last house and l'm just staying over at my cabin myself right now deciding what l wanna do about housing. Was thinking of getting a block in a better spot and building something but just of late l'm thinking ldk if l even want to anymore. Being at the cabin has just been more property work again, it's on half a hect'. Same time yeah been tossing up everything a yr or 2 now and always remembering how nice the unit living was. My work was also pretty physical stuff and l've been building things since kinder garden too ha ha, feel like l'm sick of all that too and just wanna enjoy myself for once. Anyone just renting instead these days or just in a unit of some description, what do you think ? l'm feeling if it had a bit of a garage case l felt like tinkering and somewhere to put my kayak to hell with everything else right now that'd do me.

Hope it wasn't the cops .

l honestly still can't believe that happened here, such a stupid sad thing and we're doing something v v wrong in this country the way all this violence is going on.

Nah l'd hate the place hunter, can't stand anything much US but their gun stuff my God, and the violence goes on, makes me sick to the stomach. One mad mad place , this is why l'm so against the Americanism taking over here- why? who in their right mind would wanna be like the US. One reason l stopped shooting actually, l don't even wanna hurt a rabbit. ps, l know their Moslem up Nth but gee, l mean l have no idea how it all works but l do know my brothers w is Indonesian and she is the most beautiful soul and w you'd ever meet , so is her family all 50 or so ofem. Beautiful people. But eh, that's all l know ha ha.

Nah at 100 mtrs emu, 50 wouldn't even be a shot really, and we'd expect a head shot at 100, often wasn't but that's what we'd go at. Competition nah, not really a shooter a long long time now, but most of my brothers would do shots like that all the time to so l was nothin special and dad, we were all hopeless compared to his shots. Ofc , but look at them on that bridge, there's nothing just them. But anyway look , l don't mean any disrespect to what this threads about , it's sickening and l won't be going much further here bc of it just sayin though . As for training man l didn't even shoot that often , my brothers and dad were right into it. My thoughts though , very simple. Ea cop car has a rifle in it an they usually travel in pairs far as l know so whomevers the best shot is the designated shooter should this sort of thing pop up. Couldn't see any problem with that sort of a thing and training , ldk , l'd imagine a few mths by a pro and he'd be pretty damn good, a humans a very big target. But l do know their hands are also tied in much to bc they always talk about it in news clips and hence all the new powers stuff released every now and then you also hear about. But eh, first to admit l know nothing about the police force, do know above though bc l've heard them talk about it. Even that knife guy in Melb, from memory he'd already stabbed people and here they are trying to get the knife of him , wtf , just shoot the moron. Any of this stuff forget courts and nanny rules, just takem down asap far as l'm concerned before they hurt more.

Actually, l've been shooting most of my life earlier on and as l said, every copper should be trained to use both, no big deal at all , if l can hit a bunny at 100mtrs away, easy, my dad could at 500mtrs, yaknow. ps, actually he could hit a bottle top at 500mtrs with one of his rifles. They don't even have to be marksman any ding dong could hit something the size of a human. There would've been at least a few cop cars there. And look at where the gunman were, crikey they were even propped up higher on a bridge you'd see them a mile away. Ah, don't watch American crap cop shows. Anyway, long day, leave it with ya but even our police say their hands are tied in so many occasions , they need the nanny nod to do anything. ps again , l suppose one area the world is lucky in is that most of these shooters don't seem to be able to hit a damn house at 50mtrs thank the Gods or these things would be far far worse.