Old Koreelah

?..when I see seashells in central Australia or fossils buried deep under sediment I also believe this is evidence that there was a flood that caused this - a very large one or possibly more than one flood. You don't think there was? That's fine by me but the difference is I wouldn't call you anti-scientific, perhaps you haven't gotten around to objectively examining all the evidence yet...

Of course there have been floods; big ones and with regularity over time scales that couldn't have been imagined a few thousand years ago when the holy books were written.

As you have offered no evidence to support this claim I remain thinking that it is just based on bigotry. The article you posted above has zero to do with any churches, suggest you try the public school system (also the excessive welfare system that removes incentive).

The article I posted was meant to support Col's point about trends in scientific literacy- I was not trying to blame churches.

Evidence you want? Look around you at the anti-evolution campaign by those who believe the world is only about 6,000 years old.

If you had come with me to several gatherings of particular Christian groups, you would have heard amazingly ignorant statements from people who should know better.

One influential elder pointed to the wide alluvial plains outside and claimed it was proof of The Great Flood.

(I was too polite to point out that deep under that soil are several layers of coal and probably fossils from the Age of the Dinosaurs.)

I am disturbed, GG, that you have interpreted my post in this way. I am quite aware of the vast contribution of good Christians (and good people of other faiths) to science. As an educator I also did my best to ensure this got across to my students.

What I was referring to was the deeply anti-science stance of several new churches- here, and particularly in the USA.

I have considerable experience of this among friends and family members.

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I agree 1000%, Col. (Now that's a great demonstration of my crumby mathematical education!)

As part of the system I watched the dumbing-down of the curriculum over the decades. Schools were expected to compete for the kids' attention with the mass entertainment machine. We were never given the resources to make it a fair fight.

As you say, our society is now so scientifically illiterate that too many people will accept any extreme and trendy notion, as long as it is well packaged. Have a look at the spread of crazy anti-science churches across America and here.

And we were worried about the Islamic Bomb...

What is the solution? When the ALP is talking seriously about compulsory national service (bootcamp) for school leavers, things must be bad. Or is it only election talk?

Perhaps his next song can explain that UNIQUE means there is only one.

There are no degrees of uniqueness. Either something is unique or it isn't. A bit like pregnancy.

So we don't need very unique, most unique or uniquest.

Thanks planey,I'm trying to find 'Marree Man' on Google Earth - when I do I'll try out what you said.

 

Pud

I am sorry if this thread that I started has upset some people, I didn't mention anybody in particular. No body is perfect including me, but I have found that my spelling has improved over the years that I have posted on here and on Facebook. I think that, that is a positive. I honestly don't know why people who are not as good as other people with spelling, are getting the sh*ts (sic) when spelling is mentioned. In this modern era with social media, it is a good idea to know how to type and how to spell. There are spell checkers out there and you never know, people may learn something. I know that I have. Cheers

Talking about Aussie slang. When I was working for BAE in England. One of my English course mates said to me " Why do all you Australians have letter O added to most of your names ". I said- What do you mean ? He said- Well you have Johno, Davo , Bretto, even Camo instead of Cameron. I said- I dunno.

Like my smart-**** nephew who's teacher once said "Barclay, you'll never be anything better than a Bank robber or a Dole Bludger if you don't concentrate on class.( which really impressed my sister)Two years later in charge of of a team of 18 guys replacing glass in London's high rise buildings, he called back to his school and saw saw his teacher leaving for home. "Hi Sir, I see you are still driving your old Morris Oxford, Bye the the way, how do you like my new Open Manta GTE?

Sheesh, just move into a suburb and get over it.

Filling out forms, when you get to the address section and the only option is "suburb". What about those of us who live in towns or out in the bloody bush?

Thanks, bex. Hard to see difference in text colour when iPading in the early hours with screen dimmed to avoid waking SWMBO.

Can you make it a little easier by posting a link?

Its a lot like one person's REM state, with all the inconsistencies of dreams.

You're right. If humankind's history, petty and grand, were shown to scale, it would be the blink of an eye.

History of our planet in 2 minutes..fantastic!!

This is worth watching a couple of times; it's so fast that each time you will probably see different images.

http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html