planedriver

The previous governments survey has shown that 91% of illegal immigrants come to Australia so that they can simply see their own doctor. However, time has shown that not all their statements were totally accurate!

No doubt see you there on the news when it opens

My neighbour worked for TAFE for many years. She admits she was payed way in excess of what she was really worth, and certainly a lot more than if she'd been in the private sector, but was happy to accept the money until she eventually retired. Perhaps shedding the jobs of some of these people is a good business decision, but the Rudd/Gillard circus having absolutely no business experience whatsoever in their cabinet, would sadly have been in the dark on anything of that nature, and simply not understand. My mates sister had been employed by Telecom for many years and used to go to the office in the city every day. Due to internal restructuring, she then didn't really have a specific job for almost 2yrs, but used to get people coffees and carry a few papers around and chat to others. (real productive that is) Finally, they gave her the flick, and she came out with severence pay and super to the tune of $271,000. If you are really self employed FT, perhaps she can go on your payrol and do the same. Not saying all those cuts you refer to are the same situation, but it takes someone with a bit of business nouse to clean the system up, because many people like me who worked their butt off, frequently 6 1/2days a week, contributed to their wages.

Sadly this is true, but if we have a brain in our head, we need to use it and ask the question why? When we come up with the answer, immediate steps need to be taken before the situation becomes irreversible. If your aircraft had a known fault, it's wise to fix it for the long term gain.

If most of these people have travelled through several countries where millions manage to live happily, in a bid to get here, I feel they are trying for their best option of choices, and no one can blame them for that. They'd be fully aware of the more than generous welfare benefits that Australia has to offer, and would naturally prefer to jump on that band wagon, who wouldn't? When i've watched the TV show Border Security, I can't help but think that there's got to be a lot more to the job in hand, other than nicking someone for bringing in a bit of their favourite food which they consume themselves with the family, or profiting from the drug trade. I would far prefer to see a show about those that have arrived by boats, and learn more about the reasons they are here in the first place. I'm sure in so many cases, it would show that the desired destination is more one of choice, than genuine needs. If myself and family were living in an area of unrest, and felt the need to get out and live somewhere safer, I would be grateful to be able to settle in the first place that offered me a safe haven. Anywhere else would surely simply be one of choice. To live in a country with secure borders, should make everyone feel safer, and surely that is a desirable aim. If potential arrivals are forwarned that the only way in, is strictly via the appropriate channels, the trade in people trafficing would just about grind to a halt, as word gets around that those offering these services talk ball***t for nothing more than their own personal gain. If you go to the trouble to find someone who knows someone who offers to help you, but it'll cost you, you know you are doing wrong and this is the first step down the wrong path, as it is frought with considerable risk. Sadly, the world has too many gamblers who are gullible.

That may be your personal opinion FT, and living within a democracy you are perfectly entitled to express it, but so much of what both Turbo and the greater majority have expressed, is purely common sense, and displays a caring for the place in which we live. That is, if you genuinely care about the future of this country and wish to preserve it as best as one can, as all countries should strive to do. If you think its a good idea to open the flood gates and let anyone in who thinks this might be a good place to live, instead of mainly posting bits from your comic-cuts, why not balance the argument a bit and also post a few about the quality of life and the problems that are now faced by such countries as France, Holland, USA and the UK etc; where badly thought out immigration policy's have taken place. In hindsight, I think many would wish that they could simply turn back the clock. To do things in moderation and a more caclulated way, may not buy instant votes to get pollies over the line, of which both major parties are guilty, and may upset a few with minority views. I like others, could also bombard this thread if we wished, with a multitude of information relating to political uprisings caused by immigrants who simply choose to live where policys are soft and benevelant and offer precious little in return. Once again, i'll use the term moderation, and fully support lending a helping hand to support those in need, for whatever genuine reason in moderation. The views of just a very small vocal minority on here may be right, but maybe they are wrong?, they should also consider why they are right and everyone else is wrong. I'm very much for Tempory residency to be issued, but tempory should mean exactly that and nothing more, until such times as they can be fully asessed like most migrants have been up until recent times. To rock up on a boat wearing designer clothing, pumped mucles and generally looking like you have been living the good life but just want more, does not really convince me they are opressed, starving and in genuine need. If they are genuine, they should be happy to accept tempory residency even if it was for 10yrs before being accepted for full residency and on the condition that if they don't meet the grade they'll have to return. Those who have patiently waited offshore, and by that I don't mean Christmas Island and the like, and have approched Australia through the proper channels, if they meet the required criteria, preference should be given to them as they have already displayed a willingness to abide by the rules of the country, and thereby most likely to make better citizens and intergrate in the Australian way of life in a law abiding way. Maybe i'm wrong, but you with differing opinions, have to ask yourself the same question, and above all have an open mind and be honest with yourself.

Just wondering out of curiosity FT. Do you have a real job, other than stirring the pot with detrimental comments for so much of the day? I'm sure a few on here, like me, are curious.

And there's too many asleep in the back row.

I have close friends and some old clients who came from the middle-east, and they are all hard working, honest, community minded people, who have settled and intergrated in such a way, that no Aussie who really loves his country, could ever complain about. Really lovely people! Maybe it's a coincidence, but all the above just happen to be Catholics? (which i'm not) I have no doubt whatsover, that there are thousands of Muslims here who have arrived via the proper channels and contribute to the wellbeing of the country. However, there is a growing number who seem to live on the darker side, which is of concern, as many of them were born here. In my view the good ones are a weak bunch of bastards if they don't do more to weed out their minority who do not conform. A quick read of the police incident reports in the local papers in SW Sydney, indicate in the majority of cases that the suspects were of middle eastern appearance. Shootings have sadly become an almost daily occurrence, and more often than not, is connected to the drug trade, other rorts and bikie gangs, which many of them aspire to control, until lead starts flying when they least expect it. I have no problem with multiculturism, providing those who are given the priviledge of a new start in life in propotionate numbers, do so in a law abiding manner, and don't change things to being like the place from they were supposedly fleeing. Allowing anyone in without proper documentation and background checks, is without doubt, risky in the majority of cases. Nearly 40yrs ago, I had to undergo so many checks, for health ,criminal background, employment offers, sufficient money to support myself and family until fully settled, so as not to be a burden on the system, pay our own fares, then patiently wait in line till till given the go-ahead. Being choosey who they allowed in, gave me confidence that it would be a great place to live. Despite finding myself out of work when the firm I worked for ceased trading a few months after arrival, I was too proud to ask for the dole, as I felt I had not at that point contributed to the country. That's probably just being "old school" I suppose?

Surely not! These days, so as to not offend anyone, new ADR directives indicate that preferences in design approval for magic carpets, will be shown to those who's pilots take off en-masse from the cockpit kneeling position, and in an easterly direction at sunrise.

Yea OME, that sounds like the go.

Now you've got me thinking about other applications. I once used a hydrualic brake attached to the gear rack on a big automatic sliding gate I supplied, which opened up a steep gradient. The reason for the brake was that in the event of the motor being dis-engaged while in the open position, about 400 kilos of wrought-iron gate would have raced down the slope to the closed position, taking out anything in it's path, with potential lethal consequenses. The hydraulic brake only allowed it to close slowly and 15yrs on still works like a charm. Now i've got to make a magic ball to amuse the grandkids, to go along with my other party tricks. Thanks for the idea.

You may have already known of this, but I sure didn't. In spite of watching film About WW II and the European theatre, I never thought to wonder how all the military vehicles were supplied with fuel. They sure couldn't just stop at the corner station and fill up their tank or jeep gas tank. I found this film fascinating.

No Doug. I was there several years leading up to about 1978' Her father didn't own a shotgun as it turned out, but he was a shortish council worker built like the proverbial s***house, and was an all-in wrestler in the evenings:peep wall: Kind Rgds, Planey PS do you have a daughter named Pearl then?, if you did, it wasn't me who was to blame!

Pretty good rdarby, looks like you could do with a bit or rain to green it up'

"Sucked in", I must be just another mug and should have Google"d it before posting. Couldn't see it going too well in a strong headwind though, or even heavy breathing, if being used to gather evidence against suspected unfaithful partners:thumb down:

This is NOT A Mosquito!! Look closely... Incredible [ATTACH]47400._xfImport[/ATTACH] Is this a mosquito? No. It's an insect spy drone for urban areas, already in production, funded by the US Government. It can be remotely controlled and is equipped with a camera and a microphone. It can land on you, and it may have the potential to take a DNA sample or leave RFID tracking nanotechnology on your skin. It can fly through an open window; it can attach itself to your clothing until you take it in your home. Given their propensity to request macro-sized drones for surveillance, one is left with little doubt that police and military may look very closely into these gadgets next. (And to think we were worried about getting Ross River Fever!)

It amazes me how some of these are done, but rankamateur, i'm ashamed to say that my son did something very similar in the street in my old LTD while I was on holiday, with my new set of Pirreli's. Who'd have kids?

Thanks guys, this thread is kicking along ok as i'd hoped. Liked the one of the tornado path Rob, good job it wasn't a bit further south eh? DP's one in Wiltshire bought back memories, won't say anymore, in case the chick is still waiting for me at the top of the hill, or her father with his shot-gun:peep wall: . Great stuff, keep e'm coming.

Thanks for your post, but I can't quite make out what we are looking at?

Thats funny, my daughters ex, reckons we're all the dirt across the pond.

Thanks Scotty 1, Thats just the sort of thing I hoped we'd get on this post. Well done! PS keep your post coming

Hi Pud, In Google Earth when viewing scene, I just went to File, save image, to documents or pictures, then when you are about to post, click upload file from documents or where ever you saved it, and attach it to post and it should come up. I'm no computer guru, but I hope this helps. Rgds Alan

Jeez! Tassie is just across the pond. Never knew that before:scratching head:

Stage 2 will possibly be made to keep the Tasmanians happy:whisper: