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The same tech that will have 30% of all current jobs by 2030? Might reduce the pollution simply because those people won't be able to afford energy. ... not going to change because people refuse to change. I keep saying it over and over and continually get attacked for it, it's the truth, at least I can admit it. No one here or anyone I know of otherwise is going to give up a single luxury they currently are used to. Hypocrites is the proper word for many who say otherwise, and no, putting rubbish in the recycle bins or using a hemp bad rather than plastic bags to carry your shopping doesn't give one the right to pretend otherwise when they then go pour shampoo, soap, dishwashing detergent, washing powder, toilet paper, oils and food waste down the drains into our waters. then there's the very serious issue of microfibers in our oceans from washing your clothes, Google that. It's a long list.

It's amazing how many people don't know what's happened in Venezuela in the last 10 years. In short they went from having some oil, to being number one in the world with an over 250 year supply capability, and they are still finding more. Oil reserves in Venezuela - Wikipedia Then there's Russia ... Meet The Oil Shale Eighty Times Bigger Than The Bakken

Dressage? Oh c'mon, you really think that the likes of 'Penny Windsor-Smythe' were handling 4 horse chariots in races back then? They took their stations where the appointed umpires placed them by lot and ranged the cars. Then at the sound of the bronze trumpet, they started. All shouted to their horses, and shook the reins in their hands; the whole course was filled with the clatter of rattling chariots; and the dust flew upward. All of them in a confused throng kept plying their goads unsparingly, so that one of them might pass the wheel-hubs and the snorting steeds of his rivals; for both at their backs and at their rolling wheels the breath of the horses foamed and smattered. Orestes, driving close to the near edge of the turning-post, almost grazed it with his wheel each time and, giving rein to the trace-horse on the right, he checked the horse on the inner side. To this point, all the chariots still stood upright. But then the Aenian's hard-mouthed colts carried him out of control as they passed out of the turn from the sixth into the seventh lap and dashed their foreheads against the rig of the Barcaean. Next, as a result of this one mishap, the cars kept smashing and colliding with each other, and the whole race-ground of Crisa swelled with shipwrecked chariots. Seeing this, the clever charioteer from Athens drew aside and paused, allowing the equestrian flood to pass in mid-crest. Orestes was driving last, keeping his horses behind, as his trust was in the race's end. But when he sees that the Athenian is alone left in, he sends a shrill cry ringing through the ears of his swift colts, and gives chase. Bringing yoke level with yoke the two of them raced, first one man, then the other, showing his head in front of the other's chariot. Up to now the ill-fated Orestes had driven upright safely through every circuit, upright in his upright car. But then he slackened his left rein while the horse was turning and unwittingly struck the edge of the pillar, breaking the axle-box in two. He spilled forward over the chariot-rail and was caught in the trim reins, and as he fell to the ground, his colts were scattered into the middle of the course. Would I ever go to the Olymipics to see Chariot Races! Cutting heads off dummies, spearing dummies, cross country race, etc, all from horseback would work for me too! But Dressage??? I have advocated for years that trials riding should be included, a sport that takes more balance skillz, strength and strategy than most ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3i9fSr9NgI

I've never agreed with the Olympics going Professional, let alone some of the stupid sports introduced. And don't ever mention equestrian and Olympics in the same breath near me.

Not sure where that came from. Why would my answer be to "dig more out" immediately after I just proved it's a diminishing market. But anyway, You celebrated a coal free day, I then merely and factually (with evidence, take note Nev) replied of what it will lead to for Australia eventually. I'm not celebrating, I'm deeply concerned where it will end. Yes, that's what I said, and you agree, yet you asked me about digging more out, I am one confused puppy. Completely agree, well said. But there is a quandary, you and others no doubt "want it all", I certainly do, but if you dump coal and oil then you will also have to dump some of "want it all". Even if you don't realise it, the hypocrisy of literally anyone who says it, outside of those living in Nimbin, rates from medium to extreme. But there I go again, telling people the truth about themselves, not the fastest way to make friends, apparently ;) Who's paying for all this awesome tech? Even the Greens laughed Labor's "50% alternate energy by 2030" policy down, they haven't mentioned it since. We can not afford it, period. Talk is cheap. And I'll mention another issue right there, not so many years ago people were rather dependent or tribal, community based etc. They helped themselves, and they helped each other to build things and solve problems. 50 years ago small towns would have built their own alternate energy sources had this same situation/knowledge been known. Now almost everyone screams about the problem and screams at the Government to do something, because they're not going to do a thing other than feel good that they bit-ched about it on social media. Hold the front door, you push for unaffordable alternative energy, then you post that. Or how about we just stop using copious amounts of electricity and buying useless rubbish to keep up with the Jones? Why are people driving new 300hp Falcodores to do 100kmh? You don't actually need grass when plants and concrete look just great - and a hell of a lot less water. The list goes on and on, stupid greedy Westerners.

That's twice ... That you posted fantasy and had facts thrown back at you is your fault, not mine. I'll do you a favour Nev, I'll put you on ignore to save you the "angst" of my posts. Bye bye.

Yes, I was watching Prime Minister Cameron just making a speech today about onward and upward with Brexit. Wait a moment ..... For sure, but 2 of them as bad left standing?

Neil, I used the word "Pedofile" (slang for paedophile), referring to "someone who has an inappropriate love of children, they cannot keep their love of children inside social bounds and limitations", What's not ok is for a 40 year old teacher to be having a sexual relationship with her 15 year old student. French Law: Article 227-27 prohibits sexual relations with minors over age 15 (aged 15, 16 or 17) "1° where they are committed by an ascendant or by any other person having a legal or factual authority over the victim; 2° where they are committed by a person abusing the authority conferred by his functions." Very serious crime with jail time in America, I would agree that's generally overboard, but in Australia it's usually loss of job and criminal charges.

And what "problem" is that?

What a time to live in, Brexit was a plan by a Government that went horribly wrong, American Elections with people saying the worst 2 choices ever, Far Right almost wins Netherlands Election ... ... and now in France we have a "Right Wing" Vs an Amateur with a Pedofile Wife who should be in jail!

No one who has plenty of social life, members of sporting clubs etc would believe those stats. Written by Gays no doubt. Maybe 1 in 120 and 0.5% more likely, there's about 50,000 acknowledged Gays out of 20 million adults so that's 1 in 400. I've spent plenty an evening at the Wicko and occasionally at The Beat with Lesbian friends and I rate my Gaydar as pretty accurate. I'm not keen on watching guys pucker up either. Apparently some of the Red Indian tribes had a gay guy who was taken with them on longer hunting or warring trips to satisfy desires away from home. I'm sure none of them were gay, but they'd slept with a bloke who was .. ;)

Yes it has, I see where you are coming from now.

Sorry, incorrect. During WW2 Holden built engines for the war effort. The "Grey" came shortly after, certainly manufactured at Fishies Bend, designed in Australia with or without Yank help I don't know. However, the Holden "Red", 253 and 308 V8 were completely designed by Australians and manufactured in Australia. So was the Missfire, errr I mean Starfire 4, but there's dubious grounds for that to be considered an engine. Interesting bit of info for some, the Holden Grey, even with cast iron block and head, was the lightest mass production inline 6 cylinder engine ever produced until year 2000 when BMW introduced their 1 series with the magnesium/aluminium hybrid M54 series.

Oh wow, Exit Polls have Macaroon at 24% and Le Pen at 22%. If you remember Trump was also a bit lower on Exit Polls, and Brexit private opinion polls had Leave behind Remain the day before, because it was established that with the constant berating of the Left, people feared saying that they actually voted, or would vote Right, so Le Pen could actually be leading at this point.

You meant "more riots" Shirley. Some are saying it will be the fall of the EU, not sure how they are going to stop Le Pen though. Hold it up in the Courts is one way. BTW, I don't think she will get in, but the growth of Nationalism around Europe is certainly something that can not be continued to be denied. It would have been unheard of even just 10 years ago for a "Right Wing Party" (sic) to have even gotten a few percent in an election, a point completely avoided by the Dutch Press in their recent election when the Right took some 48%. Their idea of a "resounding defeat" and mine are a wee bit different.

Did you miss the point that people are slowly stopping to buy our coal? China cut their usage by 6% last year and they are deadly serious about the downward purchase of coal. The bulk of our income comes from the ground, and it's a diminishing market, what can I say. I would love our Government to take back control tomorrow, but the fact is, again, it's a diminishing market. Love that Marty agrees with you on that, and that it is a One Nation/Trump/Brexit foundation platform The figures I look at weren't those, you may be right, it does not change the situation. Every time the sales of coal goes down, the price must go up. It's called supply and demand. Then the price of electricity goes up. That means the price of steel goes up (because you need both horrendous amounts of electricity and coal to make steel). Steel affects almost everything on the planet, if it's not made of steel, then it's built by, or moved by steel. The alternatives are plastics and aluminium or textiles which all then become more economically viable - guess what? Australia's number 1 seller is iron ore, sell less coal, prices go up, steel alternatives come into play, people then buy less iron ore from us ..... The downward spiral has already started by the way, we are selling less coal and iron ore relative to world growth by a long margin. Let me demonstrate with Australian Government facts of how serious the situation is. Note here in the last 10 years that everything Australia exports has gone seriously backwards, except for minerals, almost 30% of Australia's total exports are now Iron ore and coal. Now here is a list that shows everyone is buying less from us, except for China who are now recessing, and also have also recently started purchasing Sth American coal ....... If there was ever a scary chart then this is certainly up there. If China's economy slows down, oh wait it is, and they start buying less coal and iron ore, oh wait, they are, then we are heading for a rather large problem. Maybe now you see some of the logic with some facts.

There is bulk evidence of that, it however gets swept under the carpet and if you lift the carpet to show someone then you are immediately assaulted with power words such as 'bigot' or 'racist', etc. Actually until about the 1980's it was all going pretty darn good. Personally I love Greeks and Italians along with a few others, and can't praise them high enough for what they have done for Oz culture and how they have integrated. I have issues with recent immigration of some Muslim and some of the African cultures - or lack of culture that we recognise as being decent more to the point. "Winner" - All I have ever said is this.

I disagree with your proffering, and I have no specific problems with you otherwise that I am aware of. You posted opinions on the matter which were corrected with verifiable information and sources, that's got nothing to do with my character. This has nothing to do with people agreeing with me or not, I go by facts, if I am trounced by facts in a debate them I will promptly yield and give credit where due.

You do understand what is eventually going to happen to Australia? You do know that the bulk of coal is used for steel making? That means every time a country cuts it's coal useage, the price of everything goes up. Department of Industry, Innovation and Science Resources AUSTRALIA’S MAJOR EXPORT COMMODITIES COAL Coal has been providing reliable energy to Australians since the late 1700s when it was originally used as a fuel for heating and cooking. Today the coal industry provides the Australian community with jobs, regional economic activity, and makes large tax and royalty contributions. Coal also provides the region with an affordable energy resource and is a key component in the manufacture of steel. $34 billion export value 2015~2016 44,000 direct jobs $5.7 billion Australian wages. LARGEST GLOBAL COAL EXPORTER BY VOLUME (2015) 1st largest global metallurgical coal exporter (2015) 2nd largest global thermal coal exporter (2015) 30% of world coal trade (2015) 4th largest share of world’s resources, accounting for 9%

No "we" don't. Yes we can, it's nonsense that they continue with the very cultures that led them to their own problems. if it's so wonderful then stay where you are. You would think any logical person would embrace an obviously superior living standard and accept the laws, methodologies and cultures that created that standard. It's not rocket science.

I found the foundation funny as well to most Leaders, but moot for the specific target because it's simply too early to decide if it applies or not.

I would assert that it's a far larger number than those screaming that they are Hetrosexual. It's like Vegans, Dairy Free, Lactose Intolerants, Linux Users, Creationists, I DON'T CARE! .. I'm not interested, and I don't want you in my face. Well there are some of them that I would make that exception for. It's like those Qantas adverts showing homosexual males only need apply for Steward's positions. No, they don't exist either.

It could only end up with me being even better looking, if that were possible.

Well Jerry, I was listening to Nigel Farage the other day, and as I said above to Nev, Farage is a Member of the European Parliament, and he has in his hand Brexit proposals from Teresa May for certain trade items in exchange for continued British EU fishing grounds. So sorry Mate but what your are saying is flat out rebuked by factual evidence even in these early days. Due to Farage, there are/will be no secrets about Brexit trade offs, everything passes through his very hands, and importantly they will be known ahead of time. Oh that must hurt (May, not you!).

Due in no small part to being a part of the EU. Nonsense. The EU started as a friendly agreeable group of reasonably equivalent economic countries to make border cross trade, customs and duties easier, worked well because of the similar economic situations of those countries and there was balance - who later got greedy and wanted East Bloc countries included to take advantage of cheap labour and lower standards of workers rights etc. This saw manufacturing and social economies severely affected as was expected by any logical thinking person. Then there were the fishing countries who were invited and soon felt the impact of quota'ed EU fishing grounds, Greenland left the EU over it and Norway refused to join realising it. The fisheries industry of Britain has been decimated because of it. Which was fine for those initial countries early in the EEC days that had a reasonable level of social, economic, culture, respect and religious balance. Status Quo was maintained. Not what's been happening since Easter Bloc countries joined, and now of course mass immigration has come to the fore. Is it your position that anyone should be allowed into Australia willy nilly as they please? You think wrong. Besides much information at your findertips through Google and Youtube, Nigel Farage who tends to be considered as "Mr Brexit" is an expert in International commodities and monetary trade, and has been the South East England Member of the European Parliament for 18 years. Everything about Britain and the EU passes directly through his hands, and he is aware right at this moment of policies Teresa May is negotiating with the EU. Any question you might have, try Googling Farage and the question. Of course that would also require you wanting to know both sides, and "thinking so". No apologies for the cynicism, you have obviously taken a position and not interested in researching and balancing (available) facts. I'm certain a few people have this image of Luton Suburb tattoo'ed grunts will now be running Britain, barely anything will change other than the way trade is approached. Most people day to day living in the UK won't notice any change in their daily lives. The people who run the country will more or less stay intact, and I'm sure they will tackle the challenges of having greater markets penetration, unrestricted fishing grounds, greater manufacturing opportunities, less social services pressures etc. with vigour. those currently receiving favours from the EU might not be so happy though. Your preamble, as with many others similar, being "pre", is moot anyway, the Referendum and been run and won. Only "post" amble is now of any value, not the whining loser type, but the suggestive helpful type. Oh the irony, it was the "ordinary voter" with no vested interest other than their belief in their own country who took this win.