coljones

So... only "true" Australians to apply... guess that just leaves our indigenous brothers and sisters to populate the parliament. My Dad was born in Sri Lanka but I consider myself a true Aussie. How many generations does it take before parliamentarians are palatable?

Who remembers Craig Thompson? Union credit card to pay for hookers.

Heard a story of a building worker with 17 raincoats. He'd go to work on wet days without his raincoat, and the employer would have to provide a new one. Many projects costing thousands more than they should because of similar ruses.

An even bigger pity is that so many professional union officials use their position to advance their careers-rather than assisting their members.

Much as a sympathise with the Catalans and the Kurds in their quest for independence, a vote like that should be passed by a clear 2/3 majority.(Edit) ...and everyone should vote.

Thanks O.K., for pointing that out. It's obvious once explained. And thanks also to all those Lefty, Pinko Ratbags for backing you up.

We were brought up to believe the Soviets were the enemy of Capitalism, but they were the first in the world to introduce the 40 hour working week. So that flowed on to the West via the Unions, and the better pay deals and increased leisure time led to more demand, which pumped steroids into the Capitalist bandwagon.

 

Well it sounds a good theory to me. ... Good God - the Russians did it. Hillary's right after all.

 

Cheers, Willie.

Marty you forgot to mention that obscene subsidy that helps the rich get richer, and which helps stop poor people from ever owning their own home: Negative Gearing.

You're right there OK - even the leader of the Reserve Bank, not precisely a sandal-wearing hippie, is warning that the lack of wage growth for low and middle class earners is going to negatively impact the economy.

What right-wing loonies that complain about the cost of welfare and waitresses' wages on Sundays don't realise is, that poor people spend 100% of their income, mostly on necessities. This keeps the economy going. Rich people spend a relatively tiny bit of their income on essentials and the rest goes into making more money, through some investments which create jobs, like shares in growing companies, but a whole lot that doesn't create anything, like speculating in real estate and artificially inflating prices.

 

Give the lowest earners a boost and what do they do? They spend it all, adding to the economy, and subsequently increasing the value of the shareholdings of the rich. Call it the "trickle-up" effect if you will.

"The Media's programmed narrative" usually comes from external sources. While ever we give equal time to the anti-vaccers, the climate deniers, political extremists and other fringe groups we guarantee that weird ideas will breed. The BBC like the ABC does at least sort out the chaff from the wheat. While Brexit might have got up UKIP didn't and they Farage and the more ludite end of the Tories will be consigned to the dustbin of history to be remembered only as ugly falsities that should have been exposed and drowned at birth.

I don't doubt your friends but from my perspective in Sydney, where I personally, don't see this sort of crime being committed, have to rely on rags like the Daily Telegraph to vector bullshit dressed up as stats and other horror stories.

In the Telecrap we have society breaking down with gays and refugees committing all sorts of crimson and ripping off decent god fearing "white" folk.

The truth is that politicians and the big end of town are gaming the system economically to the detriment of the rest.

It would appear that NewCorp has a story factory that churns out near libellous stories twerked to suit the local community and I have no doubt sold on around the world and even translated into German.

It would appear that "Voice of Europe" is a right wing front. I'm not sure that I would regard it as either factual or authoritative.

Here are some figures to study Marty. I'm not saying that they report what I see with mine own eyes,. . .but this is from the DWP ( Dept. of Work and Pensions - UK Govt. ) now the Government admit that there are a Million or more ( ? ) UNDOCUMENTED illegal migrants in the UK at the moment, . . ( Home Office spokesman this morning on BBC, so it MUST be true. . .) how they would know this must be extrapolated from GDP and the incredible strain upon our public services, the National Health Service, and the housing market. Have a read, I've only scanned it briefly. I'll post more figures for you as and when I find sources.

'SOME' of our EU migrant workers, such as the Poles as a for instance, are Hard working people. ( the ones I've met anyhow ) some, such as Albanians, run the drugs rackets. . .and Financial scams etc. . Germans and French are usually a definite asset. Scuttlebut says that there are now more French barmen in London that Aussies !. . .But of course this is anecdotal. Somalian folk seem to be the poorest of the migrants, with an 'Estimated' ( not by me ) 80% rate of unemployment. DWP figures lump them in together with 'Africans' so if this is true, this would skew the data somewhat.

 

The largest employer of immigrants i the UK is now ( anecdotally again ) the 'Hand Car Wash' business. . . .Where I live in Cannock, there are 11 of these establishments, with around 15 blokes around your car, working like dervishes but not getting paid much,. .. not at £3.00 per car,. . .the sums don't work. The greatest employer of Muslim migrants from the sub continent, ie, Pakistan and Bangladesh, seem to be employed as Taxi drivers, or working in the Black economy. The rest run Curry houses, Pizza / Kebab shops, lots and lots of which have been exposed as money laundering operations for the local drugs industry. . . .but there are so many of them, especially in totally 'Enriched' cities like Bradford, Rochdale, Leicester, Bristol, Leeds, Manchester, and several boroughs of London. . .etc. . .that Mr Plod just hasn't the resources to police it all. Especially difficult when the town / city has a Muslim mayor, as many of them do. . . prosecutions are difficult when there is obstruction from on high. Thanks to Theresa May and her brilliant idea of cutting 20,000 police jobs recently. . . No wonder that Knife Crime and rapes are up no average by 37%. . . But it's OK, the Plod are policing Hate Crimes on social media so that's OK then.

 

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Jeeeze. . .that sounds serious. . .wish they'd get their spelling right though,. . it isn't hard . . .unless their eyes are bulging and they're on steroids I guess. . ..

Don't use the "blokey buddies nepotism" as if that problem only applies to males. I have seen it rampant in women's groups too.Whenever there is a majority of like minded individuals in powerful positions, there will be discrimination against anybody outside the "in group".

 

I've seen this often causing staff problems

 

Rotarians

 

Lions

 

Masons

 

ARL Footy club followers

 

AFL footy followers

 

Man haters

 

Male Chauvinists

 

Female favorers

 

Male favorers

 

Religious groups

 

Basically it is an automatic reaction by human groups. Since it is a hard wired instinct, it is unlikely that making laws will address the underlying cause. The best we can do is try to be fair in all our interpetsonal dealings.

It's usually termed "affirmative action" which is contentious potentially, as the response is often "you got the position not because of your skills, but for political reasons". The current figures in many organisations show a marked preponderance of males in the middle to high management positions. The LNP are notably down on female representation. Should this be "rectified"? Your call. Nev

I suspect that most of the dust problem comes from the coal mining and transport process. The fires in the big steam engines don't produce dust after the exhaust goes through electrostatic precipitators. Most of that very fine ash is recovered and used to dilute the cement that we all buy. (A great cost recovery from a waste by-product).All the control buildings that I worked in (adjacent to power stations), had a constant black dust problem in spite of filters on the air conditioners. And take a look at the black dust around any coal conveyers, or railway loaders.

Vetocract.Doesn't that remind you of the United Nations. A true American style democracy. Everyone votes, but if the Yanks or Russians don't like it, it can't pass.

The voter's of a republic as offered to Australians will not get to vote on the election of the Australian presidency.The government in power will elect its own candidate for the presidency.

 

Better

 

spacesailor

A republic does not elect it's dictator of a President.The same as parliament wants us (Australians) to accept.

 

spacesailor

Certain animals have top status individuals who have won their way to that position.There are no animals, only humans, who can win that status so soundly that they can hand it on to their offspring forever.

 

Thats what a monarchy is, and North Korea is a modern example of it happening before our eyes.

Go and live in the Hunter Valley Neil, and see how you like everything covered in dust. The place is destroyed. when it all ends it will still be a disgusting mess. It will never be fixed. If you go to Cook's Hill memorial walkway and look up the valley all you see is dust. It WAS some of Australia's BEST agricultural land with plenty of water from a good catchment, the right climate and near consumers of two big cities. Nev

Banks are not going to fund coal mining so according to some BUT record EXPORTS of COAL neil

I hear that the shooter has been granted honourary Muslim status, for services rendered.