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So that's the "eye for an eye" stand rather than "turn the other cheek"?

I don't see how anyone's version can be laughed at more than any other person's version. I like reading King James, lots of cool fantasy adventures and horror movie stuff like eating your own babies.

Then stop the pain, avert your gaze. BTW; Go to your favorite dictionary and look up the word "forum" for it's actual meaning.

China is ramping up it's fight against inflation, expect it to get worse. And we're lucky, Oz is on the "preferred country" list.

I haven't a clue about you or your life's doings to form any judgments. I, and also the World's majority, are happy to pay money and allocate the tasks to others just as getting water to my sink and gas to my heater are also. Beats bucketing water from the creek or worrying about rain filling the tanks, building that wind power or solar system and chopping wood and gives me more time to chat on the net and talk crap, me, not you.

Actually I'm quite happy with the structure of society that sees those types of tasks appointed to respective groups so I can spend my time talking crap on the internet instead.

I presume you have never been through the Royal Children's Hospital, nice thing your God, quite the sense of humour. I would give her the best 2 minutes of my life. As for the rest, once again I have little idea what you are posting about, so I want to take a moment and applaud you for your consistency

I have made my position clear and it's you, on more than one occasion, who has invented claims made by me while FT just goes on calling me names. But what FT doesn't realise is that he supports my case by example, the whole world is wrapped up in GW and anyone who dares to go against the tide is crucified. So they are maybe 83% correct about their "maybe". Had it been only 17% correct you would still be sabre rattling. It's worth a read why? Because it supports your position, simple. If anyone posts anything that doesn't support the GW position, it's "Looney" time apparently. In one hand you say none of us are experts on GW, but you're quite happy to show a report based on votes of people who you openly admit don't know shite. Yeah, well given a choice between believing in someone's God and GW (as currently presented) .... hmmm, I'll take 'Yes, Pamela Anderson will be in my bed one day'.

Hmm, coincidence not and Krakatoa the main culprit! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large_volcanic_eruptions_of_the_19th_century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large_volcanic_eruptions_of_the_20th_century

Yeah right, next you be asking us to read the whole manual for our planes, cars etc as well ..... This bit ... "University of Melbourne climate scientist Peter Rayner said the study allowed for more understanding on how nature absorbed CO2." ... is what I referred to above that there's always enough to cast doubt in any of their findings. They didn't see this happening and all of the other factors they haven't seen - you can't see what didn't see and you can't know what you didn't know. Anyway, I'm off to put in a research fund for the further understanding of CO2 absorbtion rates under heightened CO2 environment conditions, $1.2 million over 3 years should about cover it. By the way, I wonder did the computer running the analysis account for it's own emmissions output while running the numbers? Isn't it ironic ....

Kirk, Spock and McCoy land on a strange planet along with unknown Ensign Jones. A deadly laser shooting monster approaches them, but ok then, I won't tell you who gets killed ......

I just want to point out that Captain James T Kirk never actually said that. Ok, back to the thread

For sure Yenn, totally agree as long as the alternative is a genuine improvement which brings this thread full circle, solar panels are an improvement over coal and oil for sure along with hydro. Of course it takes coal and oil to make solar work, but gains in the long run.

You have me wrong, I believe in fluoridation, vaccinations and get a great laugh out of chemtrails etc theories. But most of all, I decide things for myself and I just don't like scams in my face daily when there's real issues at hand.

PM sent. Noted and sorted - Lox xx

You're. Have you ever seen a debate, I mean a real good debate between highly intelligent people in their field but on different sides? They choose what they want to be heard to win their case. Pay them to prove GW isn't an issue and then see their case stated. But that doesn't happen does it, pro GW is the gravy train ride currently (ironically it was Ice Age 40 years ago) and see what people like FT do to anyone who dares say it's not an issue. You think Scientists who don't make a living out of it are going to go against it and get abused by society all for free? "You hate the Earth and killing my children's future world", seriously, who's stupid enough to stand in that corner, so it's not a shocking revelation that there's currently a huge imbalance in the debate. Oh, the irony, unless you're presenting yourself as someone of equal footing to those Scientists, then please don't even try to use that against me. [mod was here] Your and other's entire stance is based on pure faith in people who constantly err but, and lucky for mankind, generally are happy to admit they were wrong and move on to ultimate discovery as true Scientists do because to a real Scientist that's the only important bit. They, the 'for GW' Scientists, may be wrong now and it shows many times in their reports. And? "the vast majority" believe in a God too or even worse, vote Liberal or Labour, enough said. I once saw a bunch of sheep walking around a small dam near Beaudesert about 15 years ago, funniest thing I had seen in years, imagine a complete circle of sheep merely following the one in front blindly, no leader nor one at the end. Had I had a video I would have got the $5000 on Oz Funniest Home Videos at the time I reckon. Your sentence just reminded me of it.

Well Marty, got to mention you are writing that from a position of currently enjoying all the benefits of modern man to the extreme. Desist from these activities immediately and go live in some isolated, backwoods, raw area with no modern services away from all the trappings of human greed, living only on what you can catch with your bare hands. Tasmania comes to mind.

What you say is true as you see it. It is also true that you and those who toe the line on GW also haven't a clue about the science that's being put forward, merely blindly following it as fact so you can tell somebody "Oh yeah, I care for the Earth's future" and feel good about yourself. Also note once again you use a negative label, eg; "Deniers" for those who don't subscribe to your blind religion. Please allow me to reply in kind, Merriam-Webster Dictionary says ... BIGOT: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of another group with hatred and intolerance

Totally agree with you Nev that somethings will certainly change because of "Us" and while it may, or may not, kill off a whole bunch of us parasites, I think the planet itself will get over it quite quickly as it has done through the ages.

No, 600,000 and 400,000 years of ice core samples (2 deepest drilling sites among others) proves that statement wrong. We are in a normal cycle of heating right now with normal fluctuations, the oldest scientific provable facts we have. Now excuse me, I'm off to protest the New Guinians for intentionally setting off that volcano and polluting my planet ...

You'll never stop it, it's not the big guys that they can't control, it's the singular looneys who suddenly decide to undertake something all on their own that can never be accounted for such as the Brothers doing the Boston Marathon bombing.

I don't care, I just want to know what time the BBQ is, just need to finish the foil wrapping and throw some sauce and garlic in as well .....

You guys are seriously joking blaming either Labour or Liberal for the constant downslide aren't ya's? They have both had enough turns since Whitlam and Fraser eras and yet apparently are colluding to achieve the same goal. You could sit here all day and argue who was better or worse but lets not pretend they have been on the same road regardless of driving down the right or left lanes. Advise Investors properly? The joke forum is elsewhere,

Gnarly, it's beyond belief that you could consider here in peasants'ville that a hospital would demand $480 let alone $48,000. But here's one back at you, did you know all Farmers in China are on a pension? Doesn't matter if they are productive or not, they get it anyway. I have had minor surgery here 4 years ago, was $30 including meds. I arrived at hospital, no prior arrangement, and I was on my way home 45 minutes later. Most of my upper teeth are now caps and one bridge, 4 major sessions at the Dentist, $220 total, fantastic work too. I had the same procedure done in Logan 8 years earlier, went to GP, referral to Specialist, saw Specialist, minor surgery 6 months later - sound familiar? I have also raised 3 kids in Logan, I have sat countless numbers of hours at night at Logan Hospital waiting room just waiting to be seen - I'm sure that one sounds familiar to a lot of people reading this as well. I reckon you need to put your energy into Australia's health care rather than being an ignorant muppet for whatever cause of your's it is. I seriously can't believe anyone in this day and age of communications and information availability still falls for the Government's old line of pointing to another country to hide their own failings. $48,000, bloody hell, they could have tried it out at $4,800 and had some resemblance of believable

Most Chinese have personal accident insurance. It's cheap of course because the Doctors and Hospitals are State run for the people as they damn well should be. The State also gives you a health debit card that's charged up each year building in value till you use it. 2 days ago (yes, Saturday) my Missus went for an endoscopy after having sever stomach pains for a few days; To see Doctor, endoscopy with pictures and report, blood test and prescription medication = $110 and in and out in about 3 hours. Also, all cars are fully insured here, can't get registration without it, but that's for the cars, not injury. No stupid lawsuits will get through a Court here either.