frank marriott

One way to end up in the watchhouse instead of receiving an offence notice and going about your business .

introduced laws in his state against using a mobile phone while driving.

I made a submission on mobile phone legislation when it was planned to be introduced into Qld. It is a two way radio and to ban them then all two way radios should be effected. But, like making a submission to the current RAA board, I was told to go play in the traffic. Certainly splitting hairs to say a radio is OK but a device which is a two way radio but commenly referred to as a mobile phone is not a radio. Would be interesting to see it tested in an appeal court.

"The Tax Office defines "wealthy individuals" those who, together with their business associates, control net wealth of $5 million or more"

I don't think it will apply to most RAA type owners.

I don't know about those wealthy Auster owners!!!

chap stepped off the footpath, hit by bus, died...........spoze he should've been wearing hiviz, maybe bus should've miraculously just levitated over him. Numbers of folks every yr drown at our beaches......even patrolled ones, yea, let's ban swimming at beaches........unsafe.Accidents happin.....unfortunate, but that's the way it is.

 

Reading some posts here, exposes the rediculous pathway, safety is heading. It's now an industry, employs officers/consultants/ trainers/trainers of trainers/paper shufflers/on and on, it goes. Little wunder more and more firms seek off shore facilities, as our incentives / our rules, are just strangling folks.

 

This "now" safety direction, is just crazy.

Some people are making money out of this "industry" and will defend it until the cows come home.

yeah nah, cops shot and killed 5 unarmed QLDers last year

Interesting view, not mine, but I'll stop there.

Nev, are you suggesting the ABC Q&A programme has no political agenda?

Bugger this lot,. . . .

Too serious. . . . .Way to skientifik for me. . . . . . Everone has an equal and opposite argument. . . .

 

Stale Meat comes to mind. . . .

 

What a twart was I for starting a thread about bloody British politix. . . . .however humorously intended. . ..

 

I'm off to Aviation Laughter to lighten the mood somewhat. . . . . .

The popularity of Turnbull "appears" to be mainly with ALP voters who will not support him in an election anyway- except of course if they exercise a protest vote against Shorten.

Hi all, I don't want to sound like a anal retentive, but drivers don't lose points. They accumulate points. All drivers start on zero and every time they are booked the accumulate points. Eg - in QLD you can accumulate up to 12 demerit points before your licence is suspended. I actually knew a bloke who accumulated 23 points before the courts caught up with him.People don't start with 12 and go backwards.

 

Cheers

Without referring to a specific speed limit or road location, speed makes the difference from a 'fender bender' and an injury/fatal accident.

Phil

Almost everything is voice intent now. So much so that the morse content was removed from the IFR exams before I did mine in about 1990, even though it was only about 15wpm from memory. The ident on the DME was so slow that I sometimes thought that not being able to read morse would have been an advantage.

When I was about 8 years old,one of my best mates was an aboriginal boy. I would go to his home which consisted of a one room home built of corrugated iron with a dirt floor. I was welcomed there and I felt comfortable.

A long story so I`ll try and keep it as short as possible. I play electric guitar and I run my computer through my guitar amplifier, everything sits in the same room.... Fran and I had been out and when we got back, my guitar, with a $1,500.00 unit on it was gone,everything else was still there...WE did a bit of thinking and decided it could be someone from the indigenous people who lived up the road so we went to talk to them and told them what had happened....A young kid about 7/8 years old, said, " I saw a guitar on the seat of so and so`s car"....We phoned the guy`s mother and she told us to call the police as she couldn`t handle him anymore ( he was about 17/18 years old).

 

I really didn`t want to involve the police but based on what his mother had said, I decided to call them. The cop told me he had no chance of getting my guitar back, so that was that....Next day I decided to take one of the guys who knew the young bloke, who took the guitar and go to the guy`s house....I stayed in the car while his mate went into the house and within 10 minutes a young bloke, came out, head bowed low and stood beside my door window, I said, " Are you the guy who took my guitar?" he said, " Yes, do you want it back?" to which I replied "Yes please", he went and got it and brought it out to me. ( that`s exactly how it occurred)

 

When I got home, I phoned the cop I`d spoken to the night before, he was amazed and asked if I would press charges, I said I wouldn`t so he proceeded to give me an ear full of how he was trying to uphold the law and just because I`d got my guitar back, I didn`t care about anyone else...I told the cop that these kids needed help not prison!... he continued to give me an ear full until I finally told him to do what he thought was the right thing to do....He went over there and had the kid in court that afternoon. To the cop it was just another thing to pin on this kid.... I later learnt he did prison time.

 

This kid was from another town. It turned out, he was with his mother visiting some friends just up the road, he was fairly drunk, took his mothers car, drove to the end of the road and onto our property, went into one of the drains we have here, got stuck, came to the house for help, no one about, went inside, saw the guitar, took it, then went and got a couple of mates to get the car out.

 

To me, this incident was more about the cops attitude than this young indigenous bloke, who obviously had problems, to deal with.

 

Frank.

If someone was injured/killed during the process would the outcome be more or less desirable?

Maybe the unhelpful button was not such a bad thing. People could show their opposition / displeasure with a post without getting into a slanging match and with some getting lots, as the number increases causes them to rethink their behaviour (as happened at least in one case) ??

What does rule 2 mean then? Nev

Para 2 means motorbike is exempt from the requirement to keep as far as practicable to the left. Does not include bicycle.

Post 42 is a bit easier to read.

The law about keeping as far as practicable to the left is quite clear (TORUM-Road Rules : applicable in 5 states of Australia)

What is "practicable" may well be debated by some.

"

Division 2 Keeping to the left

129 Keeping to the far left side of a road

(1) A driver on a road, other than a multi-lane road, must drive as near as practicable to the far left side of the road.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(2) This section does not apply to the rider of a motorbike.

(3) In this section—

road does not include a road-related area.

Note—

Section 129 requires the rider of a bicycle on a road, other than a multi-lane road, to drive as near as practicable to the far left side of the road. "

I haven't come across the "free" bit yet.

Our legal system, including its various shortcomings, is still the fairest system I have found in my studies over the years.

Rember what Ms Thather stated, I don't remember her exact words but roughly stated was "socialism doesn't work because sooner or later spending other people's money fails when the money runs out"

Who introduced the 67 yr retirement age? ............ Not this parliament, have a closer look.

I find then "ignore" button useful. It saves reading the same rubbish from the same people over and over.

It does make some threads a bit disjointed but enables you to read other views without getting annoyed by the same rubbish.

Works for me anyway.