Happyflyer

I wonder if there is a correlation between people using phrases like "political correctness gone mad"/generally putting sxxt on recent advances in safety... and those calling for reduced gun controls/wanting to own big automatic guns?I think there is. Similar mindsets. Just goes way over their heads?

Australian mining company takes over third world mine and brings new OH&S standards.

You only have to look at the overkill of traffic control in Australia compared to comparable countries to see what happens when the OH&S departments get out of control. Of course OH&S is important, but in Australia, once good OHS had been achieved, the safety departments had to justify their continuing existence and expansion by more and more regulation. Unions in some industries use safety as an excuse to get what they want from the bosses and government. We are drowning ourselves in red tape, bureaucracy and OH&S and our pollies are too busy with their snouts in the trough to do anything about it. We live in a wonderful country but it's a shame we can't keep the good and free ourselves of some of what's not good.

In the 70s beards and long hair were often worn by hippies and anti Vietnam war protestors. They were not popular with the establishment.

The USA and it's CIA have a lot to answer for. That is not just a glib statement, but based on observations made over many years.

The old WW2 style of mass global warfare just won't happen again.

Apart from the jobs generated, can anybody tell me what possible use the submarines can be?What scenario are they thinking of? Attack by the Indonesians? The Chinese?

 

I know that the best weapons of ww2 were submarines and I have read that the military are always a war behind in their armament ideas. But surely these days submarines are easy targets for computer-guided torpedoes.

 

Imagine a torpedo that just sat awash for hours or days listening until the right acoustic signature arrived and then it homes in on that target. You could drop these torpedoes off from ships or planes and have hundreds in wait for any submarines. The computers in the torpedoes would be less than the wife's Ipad.

 

If this is right, then the submarines are only good against third-world countries which can't afford decent torpedoes . But are these countries really a threat?

 

So if the military use is not there, the jobs are the reason for wanting them.

 

But the jobs are real expensive.. more than a million dollars per job per year.

 

I've not seen any discussion in the media. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. Maybe people feel better if they spend 50 billion on submarines the military say they want, and maybe its unpatriotic to wonder what they might be good for.

I agree that the money for the subs could probably be better spent. However, they are definitely there to sink ships from an invading country to the north. If the automatic torpedoes you suggest exist, I do not know of them. We have 20 P3 Orions that are submarine hunters.

If your weapons existed why wouldn't we have them to replace the Orions. If they do exist how many would be need to surround Australia? Could they be trusted to sink only enemy subs?

One British submarine sure did put the wind up the Argies in the Falklands war.

Matthias Cormann was on the radio a few minutes ago, he wouldn't give numbers either.

http://greens.org.au/policies/economics

you missed the press release where the Libs announced they have blown the debt out by $110B in two years. Can't call Laboral party fiscally responsible anymore they are both avoiding raising taxes on the corporations.

I have a hard time considering the Greens as radical at all- what policy is so bad and extreme?

Would it be Antifracking? Heaps of conservative farmers are also against it.

 

Would it be changes to Cannabis laws? All the governments of Australia are now heading this way for health reasons, and secretly because it just cost massive money to the legal system and lots of social harm by criminalisation.

 

Would it be carbon taxes? Again the world is heading this way and similar programs.

 

Would it be social justice for Gays- again we are standing alone- even the Irish have changed.

 

Would it be the anti more coal mines? Even the big banks do not want to fund any new mines.

 

Would it be their views on trashing the great barrier reef for a coal terminal? Which is globally condemned as a disastrous for the reef and all for a short lived economic gain at the expense of the environment and tourism.

 

Maybe it is they don't like logging old ancient forests for wood pulp?

 

Almost all paper manufacturers in the world now refuse to accept such pulp on environmental grounds.

 

Is it that they are blamed for stopping development- the so called Green terrorists that Abbott blames for Adani coal losing its environmental approval? No that was because the minister did not do his legally required assessment.

 

Is it they say the big corporations should actually pay for the damage they do and pay tax in a fair way?

 

Please tell me what is radical about the greens?

 

To put PUP and Bernadi in the same group as the greens is just a special kind of stupid.

Turnbull is a €@$&!#

I hope the nationals break the coalition agreement and screw Turnbull and see if he can win an early election.

 

You have my support Tony!

yeah nah, cops shot and killed 5 unarmed QLDers last year

Unfortunately police commanders now have "safety" so imprinted on their brains they are loathed to act until something forces them to (such as a hostage being shot). This means they are almost always reactive not proactive. I'm sure it is very frustrating for the copper at the coal face. Police commanders get promoted by kissing behinds, not stuffing up and office politics, they are usually not the risk taking type. SAS may have handle this better but that won't happen anytime soon in our nanny state.

It was a joke! Maybe not to your taste but I laughed. Probably not politically correct but hey, who cares?

Agree with Dazza that it is really bad. But it was made this bad by Bush and Co invading Iraq and supporting the uprising against Assad. Saddam and Assad were/are bad but saints compared to ISIS. Concentrating all forces in Afghanistan against Bin Laden would have been much better. We cannot bring our values to the Middle East. Democracy does not work there. Democracy has trouble working when religion is involved to the degree it is in the Middle East. Seal the borders and let them sort it out.

I started reading the link on calculus

Promising start

A bit of humor, good

Then I Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I've decided my grey cells stay more active when they are trying to keep me alive while flying! Probably not enough grey cells to do calculus.

dutchroll says the Indonesian gov't is hypocritical because they try to save their own from death row in other countries. I find it amazing that our government can put on such a song and dance about a couple of convicted drug smugglers, but they wouldn't help David Hicks or the founder if Wickileaks. David Hicks was denigrated by the PM and because US said he was guilty, he must be.The Wicki founder is as far as i know still in hiding in an embassy in London, he is wanted for questioning in relation to sex crimes. Note for questioning, not to be charged. He knows the USA will grab him for Wickis releasing info to the press.

 

Note in both cases the USA is involved.

 

As far as respecting sovereignty the USA does not. They have marines in the NT and I bet that if they commit a crime here they will be whisked out of the country, rather than face an Aussie court. Remember the US Staff Sgt who killed so many civilians in Afghanistan and was taken back to USA. I wonder what happened to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

The hypocrisy of our politicians and others over these executions is breath taking. Our biggest trading partners kill many more people than Indonesia. China kills over 1000 every year, the US killed 35 last year but not a peep, no candle light vigils. Plenty of holiday makers still going to those places (and plenty of Pollies on 'study trips'). The media has been working itself up into self righteous frenzy (and behaved appallingly to the families of the executed). I suppose Australian lives are worth more than American or Chinese lives.

As to whether the death penalty is deterrent or not. The publicity that this has stirred up surely will deter many from offending. It is a fact that not one person executed has ever re-offended.

Yes, I have flown a Cirrus,. . . from the UK to Italy. And Yes,. . I've read the POH,. . . ( always do,. . .it's essential ) and no one yet, even the Cirrus rep has been able to explain to me why this design doesn't like spins. . . . . these CAN occur accidentally, as any sensible pilot will admit,. . . so, rather than fit a brs, which is most laudable if you can afford it, and if you can, there is no issue at all,. . .but I can't help wondering why the aircraft was not ( apparently ) better aerodynamically designed to accommodate this condition, which I'm told it will adopt quite easily if you get it wrong. . . . . .but it's OK, I'm just an old school fart,. . . where actual spin recovery training was part and parcel of training to be a safe pilot. . . . but if the tool doesn't do it,. . . . .or is placarded against intentional spinning because you might upset the nitrogarlic regurgitator flange in the airconditioning system,. . . then maybe I'm getting too old and grouchy for this game, and should take up moaning about modern aircraft on forums. . . . . .

Don't know much about the laws of cricket so forgive me and hopefully someone more knowledgeable can explain.

I presume OME that you say it was a dead ball under:

23. (iii) a batsman is dismissed. The ball will be deemed to be dead from the instant of the incident causing the dismissal.

However as you said, "Taylor appealed the LBW decision and on review the decision was overturned and he was NOT OUT."

So, if Taylor was not out, it follows there was no dismissal, so law 23. (iii) does not apply, so the ball was not dead. Therefore the dismissal for a run out was still possible.

I'm sure what you say is correct in the main, but how much thinking, planning and committee work went into Mr Abbott's paid parental leave scheme or his bringing back dames and knights or his knighting of Prince Phillip?

The general aviation industry in the US is dying fast, have a poke around any airfield in Australia and you will find some ex-US aircraft shipped here in the last 5 years.